FFXIV Random Complaint Thread: Look forward to it

[Lucavi]

I have never understood this. Is this due to the server being slow with registering that the enmity has changed?

I think it has to do with the fact that freshly popped mobs have scripts that are prioritized to load and execute above all others. Its the same reason why mobs are "invulnerable" to enimity-attracting abilities and moves until a delay has passed. It goes pop (invincible) > stand still (immune to damage but not non-damaging enimity such as provoke, flash) >> move to pre-scripted location based on pop perimeters (such as having default hate on the tank or healer without any abilities being cast on it - it also ignores any and all hate on it at this point) >> finally react to a new script based on who has hate on the mob.

All of this is complete bullshit. When WoW trash pops mid-fight, it has to load a script just like ARR, but the difference is that WoW trash has such a small delay between its "pop invincibility" and regular script that it can essentially be blown the fuck up a second after it pops, and will essentially immediately move towards whoever has enmity on it at that point.

I get tired of beating a dead horse, but it can't be said enough: I've yet to see evidence of Japan in -any- PC-based medium show that they can come anywhere near close to NA programmers when it comes to ALL things PC, not simply graphics or movement coding. This game pales in comparison to WoW when it comes down to latency and code-based scripts on mobs. It has nothing to do with graphics, and it boggles the mind how a game developed in 2009 and re-developed throughout 2011-13 can still lag so far behind a game realistically developed in 2002-03.

Edit: I'm not even talking about FATEs, here. Do a goddamn CM run and watch how the spawned boss trash reacts, especially if said trash spawns in the middle of a combat zone. Its hilarious.

In a bad way.

[Corrderio]

I always get irked when people say "Don't bother dodging eruption. The tank will stun it."

Then from the transition from Phase 1 to Phase 2 happens, and Stun gets resisted, then a WHM dies because they didn't bother moving. Which usually leads to a full panic of everyone else except me and the friend I'm helping dying.

This. Or when they blame the stunner because of a resist. I just wish the bastard would put out his sword since I really don't want to do a PUG for AK with the wait time.

[Carth]

Just had that happen about 10 minutes ago. I dunno how the fuck it was happening but both healers died to the one eruption that got fully resisted. Twice.

Of course that translates to "The pally didn't stun anything". Even if I warn them that a resist is coming.

[Kuishen]

Just had that happen about 10 minutes ago. I dunno how the fuck it was happening but both healers died to the one eruption that got fully resisted. Twice.

Of course that translates to "The pally didn't stun anything". Even if I warn them that a resist is coming.

Also part of the reason why I left my aforementioned group. One of them started counting off every eruption that wasn't interrupted. Wanted to point out that he would actually expend less effort dodging them than being a sarcastic prick. I didn't though because I was also making mistakes and it was my first time at the fight anyways, but I sure as hell wasn't gonna stick around because that group was going nowhere fast. I think we only got past Nails like once.

Aren't Eruptions literally the same thing as the Wells in the Titan fight? I'd view it as practice and ask people not to stun. The only time Eruption NEEDS to be stunned is if it goes off while all of you are gathered in the middle or around Ifrit in Phase 2.

[Ksandra]

The only time Eruption NEEDS to be stunned is if it goes off while all of you are gathered in the middle or around Ifrit in Phase 2.

Only "needs" to be stunned then because people are idiots. No one should be running to ifrit until after erruption. There's a fuckton of time to get to ifrit after that. And yes, while eruption dodging is a pain at that point, it's still doable.

Back in my day, you couldn't stun eruptions! /oldman

[Kaelan?]

This game pales in comparison to WoW when it comes down to latency and code-based scripts on mobs.

Assuming the delay has anything to do with latency and isn't a deliberate design decision

[Carth]

Back in my day, you couldn't stun eruptions! /oldman

Gonna say I really wish stunbotting wasn't a thing. I initially didn't mind it because it's mindnumbingly easy, but I've just realized it makes people more retarded than they already are.

It's probably why people can't dodge shit during Titan HM. I'm starting to think of it as sweet justice since tanks literally don't have to do a god damn thing until Post-Heart phase.

[Lucavi]

Assuming the delay has anything to do with latency and isn't a deliberate design decision

If it was deliberate, why would they have lessened it between Beta and retail?

[Ksandra]

Assuming the delay has anything to do with latency and isn't a deliberate design decision

Has to be pretty tin foil to think this is deliberate. Even for SE.

[Toth]

Should I be this upset a newb running a Garuda farm lots the item I told her I wanted and says she forgot I wanted it. She doesn't even have the job for the weapon unlocked.

[Gokulo]

Should I be this upset a newb running a Garuda farm lots the item I told her I wanted and says she forgot I wanted it. She doesn't even have the job for the weapon unlocked.

It's annoying as fuck, but you better learn to deal with that fast. This even happens when I run stuff with LS. Granted we never talked about people actually having the job level getting any priority, but meh ;/

[Kuishen]

Only "needs" to be stunned then because people are idiots. No one should be running to ifrit until after erruption. There's a fuckton of time to get to ifrit after that. And yes, while eruption dodging is a pain at that point, it's still doable.

Back in my day, you couldn't stun eruptions! /oldman

Is there? Only tried the fight with that one group thus far and we didn't even make it that far. From the video I watched it didn't look like there was time to do that.

[Ksandra]

Is there? Only tried the fight with that one group thus far and we didn't even make it that far. From the video I watched it didn't look like there was time to do that.

I have never run to the center in a single fight until after eruption either went off/got stunned, just out of habit. Can't like, be on the other side of the map, but you can be away from the tanks/melee.

[Celeras]

Is key binding difficult or something? My A is left strafe, D is right strafe, hold right button on mouse to turn and hold both buttons to move. W and S key are combat ability binds. Movement is very easy with this set up.

What the fuck does keybinding have to do with the fact that if youre facing behind you, left will move you right and right will move you left? Or, if you're on legacy, then you can't spin the camera while moving.

Cos that was the complaint.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Or, if you're on legacy, then you can't spin the camera while moving.

Question mark.

[Churchill]

face target spam

yea

[miokomioko]

Question mark.

You can while auto-running yes, but in order to be manually running in a specific direction while looking to the side, you'll have to end up strafing to maintain that direction.

[Nyanoko]

Legacy controls, not even once.

[Ksandra]

You can while auto-running yes, but in order to be manually running in a specific direction while looking to the side, you'll have to end up strafing to maintain that direction.

maybe a keyboard thing?

legacy with controller you can run manually and turn the camera.

[Siatdiat]

What the fuck does keybinding have to do with the fact that if youre facing behind you, left will move you right and right will move you left? Or, if you're on legacy, then you can't spin the camera while moving.

Cos that was the complaint.

If I strafe while facing towards the camera, I go the correct direction and the camera angle spins. In other words, left strafe moves left and right strafe moves right. So did you try my settings or just make assumptions then flip out?

If I don't want to strafe but run directly into those directions, that also works by using mouse rather than keyboard to turn and run. In fact, /beckon leves are not nearly as bad with this set up, as I can right click then left click mouse and automatically turn and run straight.