FFXIV Random Complaint Thread: Look forward to it

**Deadgye** · 2013-09-27 05:52

Alright, so your complaint is that you need EXACT lines because running parallel is extremely important. Also I'm not allowed to use autorun because that destroys your argument. In that case, you're right.

However since excluding autorun would be a stupid thing to do and there's no reason to exclude it I'm not going to. Using it I can easily perform your straight line. Not like that matters anyway since tapping allows you to follow a line that for all intents and purposes is close enough to your ideal straight line.

If I want to make a 90 degrees turn left and walk in an exact straight line while keeping my camera forward (or moving it), all I have to do is hit left+autorun at the same time followed by holding LMB and I get the same exact effect as what you did in standard. For what reason am I not allowed to use this method again?

**Siatdiat** · 2013-09-27 05:59

Originally Posted by Deadgye

Alright, so your complaint is that you need EXACT lines because running parallel is extremely important. Also I'm not allowed to use autorun because that destroys your argument. In that case, you're right.

However since excluding autorun would be a stupid thing to do and there's no reason to exclude it I'm not going to. Using it I can easily perform your straight line. Not like that matters anyway since tapping allows you to follow a line that is for all intents and purposes close enough to your ideal straight line.

If I want to make a 90 degrees turn left while keeping my camera forward, all I have to do is hit left+autorun at the same time followed by LMB and I get the same exact effect as what you did in standard. For what reason am I not allowed to use this method again?

Still responding to celery = getting trolled.

**Celeras** · 2013-09-27 06:00

Yeah because MMOs require that kind of precision play. Especially an extremely easymode one with all kinds of built-in lag like XIV.

The fuck you smoking. IM USED TO FREELOOK WITH LMB. That's the complaint, that's it. Your argument against this is "well I can almost get your one-button straight line by quickly alternating two keypresses!". Or, "I can just use the autorun toggle, adding another button press, and not be able to change direction!". What is going on in your mind that you think any of that makes the complaint less valid?

**Celeras** · 2013-09-27 06:16

Originally Posted by Siatdiat

Still responding to celery = getting trolled.

Pfft, he made me go on for like 5 posts about why I prefer freelook LMB. If this was a battle of (terrible) trolling I got my shit pushed in hard.

**Deadgye** · 2013-09-27 06:25

IM USED TO FREELOOK WITH LMB. That's the complaint, that's it.

Either have to deal with moving the wrong direction (standard) or deal with not being able to spin the camera while moving (legacy).

I simply explained that you are indeed able to do so. Just because you don't like the way it's [easily] done doesn't mean you had to get prissy about it and claim it can't be done. Your personal preference is your personal preference, you could have just said you don't like the way it's done on legacy and that would have been that.

**Celeras** · 2013-09-27 06:47

Lol. Yes, you are indeed able to do it by zig-zagging. Or by losing the ability to change direction and using autorun. If that was your only argument, congratulations you win! In fact, I think you won 3 or 4 posts ago when I first acknowledged said "workarounds". Unfortunately, that's not what anyone was talking about.. regardless of what your strawman tries to represent.

Originally Posted by Deadgye

Your personal preference is your personal preference, you could have just said you don't like the way it's done on legacy and that would have been that.

If only I would have said that we could have avoided this whole conversation!

Originally Posted by Celeras

Standard controls: can spin camera while moving to look around.
Legacy controls: no backpedal, and always move in correct direction regardless of which way your character is facing (with standard 'A' will move you left if youre facing a target in front of you, and move you right if you're facing behind.)

No fucking way to combine both.

Originally Posted by Celeras

Yes both left/right click moves the character on legacy. Fucking stupid.

Originally Posted by Celeras

You seem to follow just fine. Hitting auto-run is a semi workaround for a problem you acknowledge, great. And what happens when I have to turn? Your autorun workaround obviously can't change direction. Do you autorun towards a cliff while doing Titan so you can spin your camera to see where the bomb spawn started? And even forgetting all that, is being forced to "adapt" to retarded controls not a valid complaint or what? I'm not really sure why this is being called out.

I complained about it because on more than one occasion I ran directly into a mob I was attempting to MGS (in AK) by trying to spin my camera and watch to see if they moved. Every game I have ever played has RMB move the character, and LMB spin the camera. I cannot think of a single exception.

**Churchill** · 2013-09-27 07:06

Why is this still going on.

You can't control camera free of movement with LMB in Legacy controls. There's nothing to discuss.

If someone wants to argue the merits of auto run, please make sure to post your in game name, server, and a list of reasons why it is you think you're terrible. (Include the auto run argument)

**Siatdiat** · 2013-09-27 07:08

Originally Posted by Celeras

strawman!

Do you know what this actually means?

**Deadgye** · 2013-09-27 07:09

Or by losing the ability to change direction and using autorun.

This is another falsity.

All I've been doing is point out facts, correcting the mistakes in what you've been saying. Why you took that as an attack on your personal preferences I'll never know.

**Celeras** · 2013-09-27 07:17

Tell me more about this falsity! You don't lose the ability to change direction when using autorun?

**Nyanoko** · 2013-09-27 07:21

Standard controls.
Max mouse sensitivity.
Never in the red.

Why is there discussion about this? I'm genuinely confused.

**Brill Weave** · 2013-09-27 07:35

Originally Posted by Churchill

Why is this still going on.

**Day** · 2013-09-27 07:52

Yo what the fuck are you desperately needing to look around at? Zoom out and/or hit V homie, looks backwards.

**Lucavi** · 2013-09-27 07:56

Originally Posted by Neviskio

On the subject of "instant" off gcd abilities, square enix rep camate said:

"Hello,

Based on the way the game was designed, and also taking into account the current level of difficulty, the development team has no plans to change the timing in which non-global cool down actions can be used, and would like players to take this into consideration when forming strategies."

Again they have no clue on wtf they are doing, it's not a design choice or a difficulty choice, they're just incompetent. I definitely keep facepalming at these posts, japanese and their design choices...I give up on trying to understand what it goes through their mind. churchill is definitely right on the fact they're incompetent...

edit: I should stop posting when half asleep...fixed <.<

They don't know how to fucking code for PCs. People can pull the "it was an outside company that did that!" excuse all they want, but all it took was seeing the FFVII port for me to know this.

Edit: Christ, what the fuck happened while I was sleeping?

**Sephiroth** · 2013-09-27 08:48

Some of the decisions SE are making are retarded. A few examples:

FATEs aren't over-powered.
Abusing FATEs with endlessly spawning mobs (Dark Devices) is fine.
AFKing in a dungeon is fine.
Primal weapon drop system is fine.

The last two are just unacceptable and will end up costing them subs. Combine that with the lag, AoE circle issues on Titan etc. and it has me concerned for the future of this game.

**Wulfgang** · 2013-09-27 08:54

Originally Posted by Nyanoko

Standard controls.
Max mouse sensitivity.
Never in the red.

Why is there discussion about this? I'm genuinely confused.

I'm with this guy / gal.

**Meresgi** · 2013-09-27 09:14

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Some of the decisions SE are making are retarded. A few examples:

FATEs aren't over-powered.
Abusing FATEs with endlessly spawning mobs (Dark Devices) is fine.
AFKing in a dungeon is fine.
Primal weapon drop system is fine.

The last two are just unacceptable and will end up costing them subs. Combine that with the lag, AoE circle issues on Titan etc. and it has me concerned for the future of this game.

Last 2? Whats up with primal weapons? The fact that all 3 drop weapons or that they only drop 1 per kill? o_O

**Rocl** · 2013-09-27 09:17

I'm assuming the fact you're 100% guaranteed one of nine weapons, but you could get 12 swords in a row and no books.

**Gokulo** · 2013-09-27 09:18

Our last farming run with my LS only last like an hours or so, we've gotten 3 scholar books. 2 back to back even I believe.

**Jem** · 2013-09-27 09:18

I don't understand what's wrong with the Primal drop system, it's an improvement over the old system where you could go 50 fights without anyone seeing a drop whatsoever. In 1.0 I did over 200 Ifrits and only ever saw H2H, Polearm and 7 Totem things (most of which were donated by LS members who started feeling bad for me). Shit was awful for Ifrit/Moogle. At least with Garuda you could just pool together the exchange items in a relatively quick manner.

The only real flaw is the Need/Greed thing only taking into account your current job.

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