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  1. #4021
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Only have to reapply Obey if you resummon it (and possibly when "zoning" via teleporters).
    you do have to have an enemy targetted to put your pet on obey, so i understand what he means by it being a stance. if i click obey with nothing targetted it says invalid target, i don't know if that still puts the pet on obey or not though.

  2. #4022
    Falcom is better than SE. Change my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Shout parties are already up to +1 Relic mandatory on Gilgamesh. Good luck on your servers.
    Thankfully I haven't ran into that bullcrap yet. Though yeah this is why I need to find a group of people to play with. Just sucks I can't go to Leviathan because of the cockblock to get form Legacy > Normal even if my character isn't Legacy. Inb4 make a new character.

  3. #4023
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    SMNs using Ifrit (granted I don't expect them all to know he sucks for no reason).
    SMNs using Ruin II when they don't have to move.
    SMNs not using Shadow Flare.
    SMNs not using Obey (Yeah that selfbuff is really gonna help Ifrit)

    I'm thankful I haven't yet had one that was so bad as to forget fucking DoTs.
    This one really drives me insane. I use shadow flare on my SCH CONSTANTLY. I almost NEVER see other Arcanists use it, and I'm just like "WHY?!" I wondered if I was doing something wrong?

    Also, this isn't a complaint but SHADOW FLARE COOLEST SPELL EFFECT IN THE GAME FACT.

  4. #4024
    the whitest knight u' know
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    I have a tiny bit of hesitance to use Shadow Flare just because, as primarily a melee, I know how annoying that effect can be.

  5. #4025
    The Defense is ready, Your Honor
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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    I have a tiny bit of hesitance to use Shadow Flare just because, as primarily a melee, I know how annoying that effect can be.
    Man, fuck that. if a melee is inconvenienced by something like that, he should play something else. Maybe something like everquest, where the spell effects wont hamper him. Do that deeps, Smn/Arc/Sch.

  6. #4026
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    I always take care to place Shadow Flare so as little of it is touching the mob as possible (for single target at least). This actually makes humanoid enemies in CM/Prae really annoying, particularly Magitek pilots who are ONLY AS WIDE AS A PERSON despite their model being huge and other mobs treating them as such. Strangely Demon Wall has a huge target ring but I can never hit the gnats with Bane there (if it's ever needed).

    Latest complaints: the crafted purple is ugly compared to the store-bought colors. I can't decide what to color my FSH AF body. Q_Q

  7. #4027
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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    I have a tiny bit of hesitance to use Shadow Flare just because, as primarily a melee, I know how super amazingly badass that effect can be.
    Fixed that for you.

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    Look I'm a goddamn tank. Nobody sees spell effects more than me. You know what annoys me more than lots of spell effects? Having to wear out my wrist even more pressing my buttons because the mob is dying slower than it could. Do the deeps, people. Fuck the haters.

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    I use it more for the slow honestly. Some might say it's... slow OP.

  10. #4030
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Man, fuck that. if a melee is inconvenienced by something like that, he should play something else. Maybe something like everquest, where the spell effects wont hamper him. Do that deeps, Smn/Arc/Sch.
    Is shadow flare the move that makes the enemy aoe thing completely impossible to see? If so I don't mind it most of the time, but every now and then an off target surprises me with something I didn't expect because of it.

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    Big blue swirly circle thing. Turning off spell effects doesn't even get rid of it. >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carth View Post
    It tells how many objectives they've completed before you entered. So for instance CM has 5 objectives. It'll show they're at 4/5, which means all they have to do is fight Livia.
    My hobby: fishing for completed AK runs and looting the chests.

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    the whitest knight u' know
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    Hey now, simmer down. I use Shadow Flare... I'm just grumpy about it.

  14. #4034
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye View Post
    Is shadow flare the move that makes the enemy aoe thing completely impossible to see? If so I don't mind it most of the time, but every now and then an off target surprises me with something I didn't expect because of it.
    You can still see the red cones/circles, it's slightly harder than not having SF up but surely not impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    SMNs using Ifrit (granted I don't expect them all to know he sucks for no reason).
    SMNs using Ruin II when they don't have to move.
    SMNs not using Shadow Flare.
    SMNs not using Obey (Yeah that selfbuff is really gonna help Ifrit)

    I'm thankful I haven't yet had one that was so bad as to forget fucking DoTs.
    Using Ruin II aside from when on the move has other uses like using the downtime to weave in an off-GCD ability.

  16. #4036
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    Using Ruin II aside from when on the move has other uses like using the downtime to weave in an off-GCD ability.
    Eh, forgot about that. Don't usually use it on SCH.

    It's more the ones that spam it thinking it's better than Ruin I, without the weaving..

  17. #4037
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    Went on Sunken Temple of Qarn on my White Mage. My MMO Buddy is a Warrior.

    Got 2 DPS who literally never attacked the same target as the tank. Not even once. The Dragoon would attack #3. The Summoner would attack #2. Tank would be #1 because he's the only one who can fucking count apparently.

    I even flat out told them to focus on the same target. Their response? Literally nothing. They just stood there while the tank pulled the next pack and idle'd for a good 30 seconds before actually moving.

    Then the tank pulled a patrol. Just one single target. I told my MMO buddy on Skype, "gonna be hard to fuck this one up".

    Then not even two seconds later the Summoner proceeds to pull the next pack of mobs up ahead and bring them to the party.

    HOW DO YOU FUCK THAT UP!?

  18. #4038
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    You can still see the red cones/circles, it's slightly harder than not having SF up but surely not impossible.
    Depending on placement, some lines are flat out unseeable. The game loads Shadow Flare over the conal/AoE lines and yes, there's no way to turn it off that I've found. What Seravi said is the right thing to do, like a foot or if it has no back attacks there, but the amount of wipes I've seen because of how stupid this game loads shit makes me hesitant to use it sometimes as well.

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    Wrong, the correct thing to do is drop it on everyone so they can all go "oh wow that fucking spell effect is so fucking cool looking this is awesome" while they get cleaved to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Man, fuck that. if a melee is inconvenienced by something like that, he should play something else. Maybe something like everquest, where the spell effects wont hamper him. Do that deeps, Smn/Arc/Sch.
    Shadow Flare consistently gets me killed in Turn 2 by rockets.

    Got to the point we had to ban it's usage.

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