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    Everyday sees some under cutters seemingly move on only to be replaced by a new batch for both miner and goldsmith....

    Also.. I have no clue how geared I need to be to try AK again..

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    Old Odin
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    Not exactly a complaint (well it sort of is but it's more in SE's direction than other people), but when WHMs get a chance to go all out DPS for a moment, don't forget about Fluid Aura! Non-GCD, almost as strong as Stone II, won't knockback most bosses that matter (hardmode primals). Though oddly enough it'll bind Garuda.

    Hell I just wish I could turn the knockback off so I could use it more. It's really strange sometimes what you can (Vanguards including the boss in CM, Magitek giants, Magitek armor pilots) and can't (succubus) knockback.

  3. #4383
    Ridill
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    Kind of hard to use since you need to be so close to the mob, the time spent running in (time not casting) would kind of negate any extra damage.

    On a similar note, fucking Holy, spell is incredibly useful and powerful and I almost never see WHMs use it (or use it properly for that matter).

    Ever since I finished Omnilex I just seem to keep coming up with reasons I should have done Thyrus ._.

  4. #4384
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Ever since I finished Omnilex I just seem to keep coming up with reasons I should have done Thyrus ._.
    I thought to myself after finishing 3rd relic, what next? Tank and melee DPS would probably take a while since my gear for those is all crafted/AK. So I thought hey let's do Thyrus since I'm geared for it.

    Finished the fights in a day. All DFs (Ifrit/Garuda) and shouts.

    Spamming Holy like a boss.

  5. #4385
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    My 3 relics are PLD DRG and SCH and I gear all 3 jobs for full use (DL), it's a lot of philos as it is than to spend 900 more on a weapon for a redundant role.

    Then I'd have to choose which healer relic to +1 which is an even harder decision, as it is I'm torn between upgrading croutona or omnilex next or going forward and buying mytho gear.

  6. #4386
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    I dread the fast-approaching day I complete my fishing log and run out of bad excuses to not spam for Philos and crush my soul. (half-joking)

  7. #4387
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    Getting real tired of DF groups who want to glitch the first boss in AK.

  8. #4388
    The Optimistic Asshole
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    CM runners don't know what they're missing when I volunteer to go on WHm when they shout for needing a DPS. WHMs melt groups of mobs (and stun them!).

  9. #4389
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    WHMs need to be using Cleric Stance more in general. I seriously feel like I'm the only one who bothers.

  10. #4390
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    Picked up a WHM the other day who spent most of AK nuking, it was a real workout (and much quicker!). But I guess that doesn't really belong in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andradi View Post
    Picked up a WHM the other day who spent most of AK nuking, it was a real workout (and much quicker!). But I guess that doesn't really belong in this thread.
    Depends if he left you die

  12. #4392
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    I love cleric stancing AK and just letting my Fairy heal, when the tank is good enough for it. It's the only thing that makes AK grinding tolerable.

  13. #4393
    Dammit Steve of the House of Weave
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carth View Post
    WHMs need to be using Cleric Stance more in general. I seriously feel like I'm the only one who bothers.
    my issue with cleric stance (even though I use it a ton in stuff like AK) is there should be an ON/OFF function for it. The way it is now I click it half the time then right into a cure and it doesn't go off because instant abilities aren't instant in this game. Which is another whole rant. But even if I spam it until it goes off it'll go right back into cleric stance and I'm screwed.

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    I still dont see why people grind AK when SR garuda HM are faster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    I still dont see why people grind AK when SR garuda HM are faster
    Because running Garuda 40-something times is not an improvement over 8 AKs.

  16. #4396
    Dammit Steve of the House of Weave
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    How much do each turn of BC give? I never try it until I'm capped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    I still dont see why people grind AK when SR garuda HM are faster
    Only requires 4 people.

    A lot of the gear is useful.

    Spiritbonding.

    Take your pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon View Post
    How much do each turn of BC give? I never try it until I'm capped.
    50 each (not sure for Turn 5. Guessing it'll be 100?... But it might be 50 too), minus turn 3 because turn 3 is the best turn and doesnt need tomes

  19. #4399
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Only requires 4 people.

    A lot of the gear is useful.

    Spiritbonding.

    Take your pick.
    Meh i prefer Capping stones ASAP and SB on Quick synth while afk

  20. #4400
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    I still dont see why people grind AK when SR garuda HM are faster
    because you still can do 15 min AK.

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