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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argantes View Post
    And then watch the leader become the griever.
    Just cause he was randomly apppointed leader and may not even know best.
    At least in my case I was the leader watching idiots grief and no way to do anything but watch.

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    Well, while it might've worked out in your case, when you enter an instance the party leader flag is randomly assigned to someone in the group. Which means in the long run your solution solves absolutely nothing. What if some jerkface gets it and decides to kick the tank simply because he's a warrior?

    I mean, that's something I'd do.

    However votekick probably would've worked in your situation if they were as bad as you say.

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Well, while it might've worked out in your case, when you enter an instance the party leader flag is randomly assigned to someone in the group. Which means in the long run your solution solves absolutely nothing. What if some jerkface gets it and decides to kick the tank simply because he's a warrior?

    I mean, that's something I'd do.

    However votekick probably would've worked in your situation if they were as bad as you say.
    I see what you mean and that's an even better idea. Other dude was pretty pissed off too and /votekick or something like it would have worked. I'm over it now anyways.

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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    you got some fucked up priorities
    In all honesty, I don't think I've ever experienced fatigue hitting me that bad.

    Also, standing in the middle lane for Demon Wall and still somehow getting knocked off the ledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    In all honesty, I don't think I've ever experienced fatigue hitting me that bad.

    Also, standing in the middle lane for Demon Wall and still somehow getting knocked off the ledge.
    Was it perhaps a delayed knockback? That has happened to me several times, and at least once to everyone in my LS.

    Standing ready for Repel, knockback doesn't occur "O.o Huh, that's odd." Resume attack, and as you move to the side to dodge first muck pit, boom, you go flying off the side.

    Kinda annoying, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Also, standing in the middle lane for Demon Wall and still somehow getting knocked off the ledge.
    You go backwards relative to the direction you're facing (or forwards if you're facing away from the wall), not backwards relative to your position to the wall. Counter-intuitive as hell but I've died because of it before too.

    On topic, I don't care if a DF party can't speedrun or whatever, but I managed to be That Tank(tm) earlier because the WHM pulled the "lol I'm on PS3" card and cast maybe one heal spell in 3 wipes. There's a limit to my patience and that simply managed to piss me off.

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    I've seen people say that, but I'm pretty sure it just knocks you back relative to your position. I've been wailing on a gnat before, that was a bit off to one side so I was facing diagonally, and I just got knocked directly backwards as I expected due to standing in the center of the platform. I could be crazy though. I'll have to try facing backwards next time just to see.

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    In my experience I've never been knocked back while facing the wall, but have been knocked back from the middle while facing to the side.

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    It knocks you back relative to where you are facing. I've ended up to the side even when standing in the middle before. Also stoneskin can cause delayed knockback once it wears off.

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    It's relative to your position but you have to pretend the spot right in front of wall is like 1 pixel:

    ....x....
    ..........
    ..........

    So if you're like right on top of X (extreme edge of front of wall), you could be going in aaaaaany direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    It knocks you back relative to where you are facing. I've ended up to the side even when standing in the middle before. Also stoneskin can cause delayed knockback once it wears off.
    No. If you don't take any damage from repel due to stoneskin then you don't get knocked back at all ever. We used this trick extensively back when nobody was geared so that the tank could flash the gnats instantly. Also if you overwrite the repel knockback animation with another animation like jump or repelling shot you will not get knocked back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    It's relative to your position but you have to pretend the spot right in front of wall is like 1 pixel:

    ....x....
    ..........
    ..........

    So if you're like right on top of X (extreme edge of front of wall), you could be going in aaaaaany direction.
    This. I don't understand how people didn't pick up on this instantly and are apparently still misinterpreting how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye View Post
    No. If you don't take any damage from repel due to stoneskin then you don't get knocked back at all ever. We used this trick extensively back when nobody was geared so that the tank could flash the gnats instantly. Also if you overwrite the repel knockback animation with another animation like jump or repelling shot you will not get knocked back.


    Then there is or was a glitch associated with it. I've also seen people who had stoneskin on get randomly knocked back when it wears off.

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    If I had to guess, that's probably just your average late repel register. It happens.

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    Shouldn't, unless it just barely broke it. I usually use Sentinel / Rampart on DW first repel which with Stoneskin nulls the damage / knockback.

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    Well if it's a weak Stoneskin (SCH) on a weak class (non-tank), yeah that'll probably happen (if in this case they don't also have Adlo/Succor). Has to be a 0 damage hit to do nothing.

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    If I had to guess, that's probably just your average late repel register. It happens.
    This is all it is. AK is a very busy instance and lag on repel isn't a rare thing. Never move away from the center after repel until you have to to avoid the other attacks.

    This reminds me of when people claimed that we "just barely made it" on destroying ifrit's nails because he jumped for astral flow right after the last nail died. Some people just can't see the forest for the trees I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    It's relative to your position but you have to pretend the spot right in front of wall is like 1 pixel:

    ....x....
    ..........
    ..........

    So if you're like right on top of X (extreme edge of front of wall), you could be going in aaaaaany direction.
    That's probably it. I kinda jumped the gun since I wanted to get in position to grab gnats ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    That's probably it. I kinda jumped the gun since I wanted to get in position to grab gnats ASAP.
    Tempered Will. It's like one of the few instances where it's useful.

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    Sadly, I forget I actually have that skill until it's too late.

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