FFXIV Random Complaint Thread: Look forward to it

[Meresgi]

Wut. MC / Onyxia was in at launch..

My mistake, I had thought MC/Ony were in 1.2, but it was 1.1 which was still during beta. Still though, there were so many hoops and shit to go through in Vanilla it was somewhat similar to FFXI:RoZ. Would you rather SE had extended it out like that for FFXIV? I mean they could have made the grind to 50 tedious as fuck and requiring roaming exp parties+quests while also requiring skill ups and shit, then require quests to get past 35, 40 and 45 and farming keys for all of the AF gear etc etc.

I get there isn't much shit to do at end game, but had CT been at launch I think it would have been comparable to any other MMO and beyond most anyways. I forget wtf Aion had at launch other then the pvp dungeon at lvl cap, and TERA I think had 2 dungeons? and a horrible laggy dynamis type thing.

[Arelian]

Mildly off-topic, but:

I'm currently playing a Game That Cannot Be Named and I forgot how nice it is to play a game that just... works. Chat commands are what you'd expect, the chat system is relatively bug-free, my movement is exactly what I want it to be. I'm not worried about lag being a legitimate excuse for anything in this mysterious game, and it's only in beta. Gameplay totally aside, FFXIV fails almost entirely in making me feel connected to my actions because I can always assume I'm lagging in some way. It's beyond frustrating.

[AidenCarby]

I love when I use Benediction when the tank is at 200 HP, he still dies, and the Benediction cooldown is also taken.

Yeah they need to fix that bullshit, also raise animation where you can't heal someone but they can take damage is fucking stupid.

[Ksandra]

also raise animation where you can't heal someone but they can take damage is fucking stupid.

luckily they said they were changing that. Raise animation is still going to be there, and you can't cure, but they won't take damage.

[Lokus]

Yeah they need to fix that bullshit, also raise animation where you can't heal someone but they can take damage is fucking stupid.

The annoying thing is that a SCH's Fairy can heal you right after a raise while the SCH themselves can't do shit. At least they are addressing in 2.1 by giving you a brief period of invulnerability after getting raised.

Edit: beaten. Here's the official dev quote at least.

Greetings,

Not being able to heal players during the raise animation is working as intended. However, in patch 2.1 we will be making adjustments so that after you are raised you will not receive damage from attacks for a certain amount of time.

[Rehn]

Anybody else know what's up with the Darksteel Ore node in Coerthas? It's not spawning at 1AM near Dragonhead.

Are you Lv46+? It won't appear unless you use the truth of mountains ability.

[Fojoop]

Being banned for 10 days from the official forums for calling someone annoying and saying they don't add anything to discussions.

W..h...a...t.

[Ddz]

Are you Lv46+? It won't appear unless you use the truth of mountains ability.

Yes...

[Fievel]

Anybody else know what's up with the Darksteel Ore node in Coerthas? It's not spawning at 1AM near Dragonhead.

It's been bugged like that for well over a month, sometimes just doesn't pop.

[Kelenae]

Being banned for 10 days from the official forums for calling someone annoying and saying they don't add anything to discussions.

W..h...a...t.

Ya i got banned from the OF for a few days. Dont know what i did to earn that lol. I hardly post there.

[Fojoop]

Ya i got banned from the OF for a few days. Dont know what i did to earn that lol. I hardly post there.

They e-mail you your reason for being banned

[Corrderio]

Fojoop is correct though. If companies spent the extra time developing more (good) content that would keep people playing (instead of bullshit cockblocks like the myth cap) before release they would make more money on concurrent subscriptions over the first 3-6 months than they would otherwise.

While true, I don't mind the currency lock out too much since if I enjoy it (I'll admit I do enjoy WP) I can go back and do it. I'm more concerned about if they'll keep dungeon lockouts as a thing or not. While unintentional, my FC is pretty much dead on of static groupcoil nights. Can't even get 3 others for WP/AK on those nights now.

[Grey Jorildyn]

I'll almost always run WP. Just ask!

[Corrderio]

I'm on hiatus. I'm just burnt out. If it's not WP it's trying not to fall asleep at my desk leveling CNJ to 34, then ACN to 34, then BLM to 50.

[Ezek]

My FFXIV adventure every week has basically turned into: log on for Coil, clear it in an hour or so, do x3 WPs to finish myth cap, then log off for the rest of the week to play other vidya (based BF4 and Pokemans).

[blowfin]

Being banned for 10 days from the official forums for calling someone annoying and saying they don't add anything to discussions.

W..h...a...t.

The policing on the main forums is so backwards it's ridiculous. One guy repeatedly bumped his own thread back onto the main page every few days, something that would get you banned/suspended on the vast majority of other forum sites. I actually got off my ass and reported his bump posts yesterday as an experiment. Looks like they moved the thread to the "website feedback and suggestions" forum, where it will most likely never be seen again by anyone. LOL.

But yeah, disagreeing with someone profoundly stupid and providing solid reasoning has to be done with kid gloves. At the slightest hint that you're denigrating some people, they'll hit the report button, and the mods generally act on it.

[Fojoop]

My FFXIV adventure every week has basically turned into: log on for Coil, clear it in an hour or so, do x3 WPs to finish myth cap, then log off for the rest of the week to play other vidya (based BF4 and Pokemans).

Yeah, pretty much the same for me. Been trying out other MMO's I played long ago as well.

Apparently Guild wars 2 recently added an outdoor world dungeon with bosses with mechanics that anyone can enter and it's pretty fun and challenging. The content everyone's been asking for in a MMO for the better part of a decade. It's really nice. Why can't SE do this too?

[ronin sparthos]

My mistake, I had thought MC/Ony were in 1.2, but it was 1.1 which was still during beta. Still though, there were so many hoops and shit to go through in Vanilla it was somewhat similar to FFXI:RoZ. Would you rather SE had extended it out like that for FFXIV? I mean they could have made the grind to 50 tedious as fuck and requiring roaming exp parties+quests while also requiring skill ups and shit, then require quests to get past 35, 40 and 45 and farming keys for all of the AF gear etc etc.

I get there isn't much shit to do at end game, but had CT been at launch I think it would have been comparable to any other MMO and beyond most anyways. I forget wtf Aion had at launch other then the pvp dungeon at lvl cap, and TERA I think had 2 dungeons? and a horrible laggy dynamis type thing.

If they didn't have endgame sorted out properly? Yup.

But we know that wasn't going to happen. Yoshida set the game up in a way that nothing matters before the level cap and beating the game is the real beginning of your journey. There is zero reason to explore anything during the 20s-30s outside curiosity and outside dungeons you're pretty much forced to climb to 50. Games vertical so there is no where but up.

Now you're finally pushed to endgame, there is so little to show and so many people beating down the walls waiting for content you're going to lose players from sheer boredom. No PVP, No WvW, no NM camps, no sidehests for cool gear, no jumping puzzles, no swimming for lulz to spear sharks, no reason to mull about crafting midgame.... nothing.

You know things are on the rocks when base GW2 eats ARR alive. So much more overall content.

[arus2001]

^ Just because something isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean the game isn't better off for it. Its as you say: you're a carebear. ARR would have been better for the inclusion of the Sea Wolves Den and PVP.

It'd be a fleeting kind of better, really. Sort of like Rift with how the arguments then just shift toward imbalances or lack of new venues for the PvP. And since it wouldn't be up to par, it'd just be auto-fail anyway. And some types would say it is because open world isn't a thing, anyway. Given your own inclinations toward the activity, I'm not sure you can understand how it might hurt the game overall if manpower and implementation of things is really on a, "this or that..." scale of dev focus. Suppose we'll see what kind of mess it all is when it hits, but I won't be at all surprised if it falls into Ballista/Brenner tier of incredibly niche popularity.

[Argantes]

A few posts before yours we had dejet basically exemplifying the problem of the MMOs and pandering to the hardcore base. They believe they deserve more simply because they play more.

On paper, that's a sound concept since it implies more activity. What happens in MMOs, however, is that fair effort:reward ratios get strung out on the time sink scale through RNG, access timers/restrictions, manpower requirements, and then some combination of those. Being hardcore isn't so much about being skilled at this point, you just fall behind because someone thinks you should play more. As well, they're far more apt to munch through the content and then bitch about there being nothing to do. So they're a harder to please minority by default. Filthy casuals standing on the same ground just adds displeasure to that since their prestige isn't so much so.

That's an interesting story, but I don't see how it has anything to do with me wanting more content and being annoyed by the fact that others don't want more content cause they have a supposed RL instead.

Right now, after you've done Coil and capped your Myth (which can literally be done in 2 hours or so) you're done.
I like progression, and farming any more WP/AK/etc is only towards more gil I don't use on anything.

I started on a new server after relaunch cause we all figured that the game would be boring quick with us all having legacy chars. We wanted to do the MSQ etc.
I'm still sitting on 5 lvl 50s all maxed out on gear obtainable from the current allowed instances. Not including Coil ofcourse.
But there it is again, The limit on Coil.

And again, I know it's supposed to be looked at as a new release, and I'm taking it that way.
I knew very well what the limitations are and would be at least till 2.1 before I signed up for a 6 month subscription.

What my initial complaint was, and still is, is people not wanting to do too much stuff in an MMO cause of their supposed RL.
Again, I don't care. They can throw all the content in the world at me and I'll see if I'll do it or not.
I just want the option to do it and not run around an aetheryte just using the game as a chatbox.