FFXIV Random Complaint Thread: Look forward to it

[Kincard]

As far as community goes, one thing I kinda wish they took from other MMOs are RP servers. Say what you will about RPers being dorks, but the sort of people who care to RP tend to be the type of people who are more interested in just having fun. Granted you'll have people RPing assholes but that ends up being part of the fun. Of course, proper RP server require some good GMs too (for example good RP servers will disallow obvious inappropriate or trolling names like Captain Kirk, Merlin Gandalf, Barack Obama, Tug Maigroin etc) and SE has never really been good with that for NA servers.

[solracht]

As far as community goes, one thing I kinda wish they took from other MMOs are RP servers. Say what you will about RPers being dorks, but the sort of people who care to RP tend to be the type of people who are more interested in just having fun.

I have no idea if this is still true nowadays, but in my experience this was 100% spot on 4-5 years ago in WoW. It's why friends and I played on RP servers (even though we never RPd): the community in that type of servers seemed better than in the normal servers.

anecdotes etc

[FHT]

RP servers? Does that mean Role Play Servers?

[Ratatapa]

RP servers? Does that mean Role Play Servers?

Yes

[Corrderio]

I feel exactly that way, its just so painful to log in just to do 10 WP to cap 300 Myths.. It feel like a job/duty and blow the fun away.

I'm starting to get this way to. As much as I hate to admit it, I miss my ex-FC since doing WP via DF feels like a chore.

[The Stig]

"i like to help low level ppl lol", but it really made the game-world much more interesting to me.

Yeh I remembered strolling around Dunes/Qufim in my awesome RDM, WHM or PLD AF and being the hero amongst men as I would fearlessly kill that aggroing ghost/skelly and throw raises/escorts everywhere.... yeahhhhhh.

To get the same natural high in FFXIV, I need to be strolling around, and happen to find someone struggling against a mob like 6 levels higher than them

[Argantes]

I feel exactly that way, its just so painful to log in just to do 10 WP to cap 300 Myths.. It feel like a job/duty and blow the fun away.

To compensate and kill the time I have joined some random /sh group that needed a tank or a DD for Hydra/Chimera/Ifrit/Garuda and geez I can tell you it felt nothing like XI.
We are surrounded by rude players/slackers who doesn't even appreciate the game themselve, so to appreciate the time random people give them? lol..

I really miss the time where I made friends just by PLing a party in Valkurm dune on my PLD50 who freshly had got raise, this was a wonderful feeling and people were really thanksfull for your time.

Nowaday? wont even bother talking about it lol.

I helped a random Titan shout group on BLM last night since we had like 90 mins before Coil and I was bored.

First fight we didn't even kill heart cause about 5 people died. ( I killed the MNK killing his Gaol in 3 plumes cause it was too much fun not to)
I know, Dick move but I couldn't help myself.

Second fight goes alright, even after we lost the SCH right after heart phase.
With Titan at about 20% or so HP the MNK uses LB2, but he was going fast enough to hit LB2 or maybe even 3 again before Titan would die.
The tank starts bitching about this, and the mNK and PLD hit it off. Arguing left and right (The MNK was just there to help too)
We end up wiping to Tumults and I tell them to Chill out, I'm just here to help so let's do this.

He said, you're both wasting time.
I asked how me getting killed by Tumults when I dodged every other attack is wasting his time.
Then I get told I'm being booted "defending the Noob MNK"

The "noob MNK in question was a BG MNK with about 4.4kHP, 2 allegan weapons on other classes etc. He was probably topping DPS too.
The MNK and I obviously just left the group but yeah.

We basically got told we'd get booted even though we were both trying to carry his friends who couldn't dodge anything for shit.

That's how appreciative people are nowadays.

[Meresgi]

I helped a random Titan shout group on BLM last night since we had like 90 mins before Coil and I was bored.

First fight we didn't even kill heart cause about 5 people died. ( I killed the MNK killing his Gaol in 3 plumes cause it was too much fun not to)
I know, Dick move but I couldn't help myself.

Second fight goes alright, even after we lost the SCH right after heart phase.
With Titan at about 20% or so HP the MNK uses LB2, but he was going fast enough to hit LB2 or maybe even 3 again before Titan would die.
The tank starts bitching about this, and the mNK and PLD hit it off. Arguing left and right (The MNK was just there to help too)
We end up wiping to Tumults and I tell them to Chill out, I'm just here to help so let's do this.

He said, you're both wasting time.
I asked how me getting killed by Tumults when I dodged every other attack is wasting his time.
Then I get told I'm being booted "defending the Noob MNK"

The "noob MNK in question was a BG MNK with about 4.4kHP, 2 allegan weapons on other classes etc. He was probably topping DPS too.
The MNK and I obviously just left the group but yeah.

We basically got told we'd get booted even though we were both trying to carry his friends who couldn't dodge anything for shit.

That's how appreciative people are nowadays.

If you're going to carry me then carry me properly! I DONT HAVE TIME FOR A HALF ASS CARRY!

Yeah I love some people

[Kipling]

Monk is #1 DPS.
Stat points are bullshit, so is coil weekly lock outs. Oh you can play every job on a single character? Have fun never actually being able to.

Seems like they alternate, but it also depends on if you have a BRD casting requiem ever. But if you do, SMN would win I think no?

Either way, I guess I don't get burned out by spamming dungeons like you guys do because I see the reward. I'm the kind of dude who levels alts and new jobs and then spends hours just straight grinding to get DL/myth/crafted shit because I can always see my goal at the end of it. This is one of the reasons why I love MMOs. Because as long as I can see what I'm working toward, every single tome/exp/gil is something that can't ever be taken away from me. It's there, and I earned it. Even if I have a bad dungeon run with pugs (don't really pug anyway) and we wipe it doesn't erase all that previous shit I earned like some game genres (MOBAs etc) might.

[ronin sparthos]

Crafting feels meaningless and whereas XI sent me to dangerous places mining or logging for potential big profits, this game is a mindless clusterfuck on the market boards and half the interesting things (fish mainly) are useless. I guess I'm biased because I usually level a consumable crafting class in an MMO and spend my free time loading up the AH with potions, food or whatever happens to be useful but there is nearly zero demand for that here.

In a game where you're supposed to be able to play a DoH job like a legitimate main class, there sure is a whole lotta nothing on that front. Bad enough you can't craft gear for lowbies because the entire pre-50 game is designed to be self-sufficient and food is completely useless. You thought Mithkabobs onry was a thing? Welp, in XIV nothing is a thing outside a handful of endgame raids which completely cratered my desire to level up CUL.

I keep hearing about more dungeons and boss encounters but where is the progression for crafters and gathering jobs? Why make these professions jobs if they're gonna be afterthoughts? It feels just like the 1.0 classes. Where are the big boss drops that craft into the endgame gear to have? Where is the rare loot to farm to craft neat shit out of? Where is the demand to propel consumable crafters?

[Argantes]

Crafting feels meaningless and whereas XI sent me to dangerous places mining or logging for potential big profits, this game is a mindless clusterfuck on the market boards and half the interesting things (fish mainly) are useless. I guess I'm biased because I usually level a consumable crafting class in an MMO and spend my free time loading up the AH with potions, food or whatever happens to be useful but there is nearly zero demand for that here.

In a game where you're supposed to be able to play a DoH job like a legitimate main class, there sure is a whole lotta nothing on that front. Bad enough you can't craft gear for lowbies because the entire pre-50 game is designed to be self-sufficient and food is completely useless. You thought Mithkabobs onry was a thing? Welp, in XIV nothing is a thing outside a handful of endgame raids which completely cratered my desire to level up CUL.

I keep hearing about more dungeons and boss encounters but where is the progression for crafters and gathering jobs? Why make these professions jobs if they're gonna be afterthoughts? It feels just like the 1.0 classes. Where are the big boss drops that craft into the endgame gear to have? Where is the rare loot to farm to craft neat shit out of? Where is the demand to propel consumable crafters?

That's cause aggroing anything doesn't mean anything anymore. (IMO)
If you were mining in Ifrit's Cauldron in Xi you'd better watch your ass even getting there.
Here you just kill whatever you wanna farm without much thought or just stealth to gather.

There are no "Dangerous Places" in this game tbh.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Hell it's not even stealth. Just the stupid "return to territory" thing that makes it so salvation is a Sprint away. Dungeons could have been "dangerous" for this but aren't because they're party onry and you're killing or skipping everything anyways.

[Taruina]

The inability for DPS to interpret the in-game "threat meter" astounds me.
And you can bet it's always the squishiest ones who ignore it.

[FHT]

I helped a random Titan shout group on BLM last night since we had like 90 mins before Coil and I was bored.

First fight we didn't even kill heart cause about 5 people died. ( I killed the MNK killing his Gaol in 3 plumes cause it was too much fun not to)
I know, Dick move but I couldn't help myself.

Second fight goes alright, even after we lost the SCH right after heart phase.
With Titan at about 20% or so HP the MNK uses LB2, but he was going fast enough to hit LB2 or maybe even 3 again before Titan would die.
The tank starts bitching about this, and the mNK and PLD hit it off. Arguing left and right (The MNK was just there to help too)
We end up wiping to Tumults and I tell them to Chill out, I'm just here to help so let's do this.

He said, you're both wasting time.
I asked how me getting killed by Tumults when I dodged every other attack is wasting his time.
Then I get told I'm being booted "defending the Noob MNK"

The "noob MNK in question was a BG MNK with about 4.4kHP, 2 allegan weapons on other classes etc. He was probably topping DPS too.
The MNK and I obviously just left the group but yeah.

We basically got told we'd get booted even though we were both trying to carry his friends who couldn't dodge anything for shit.

That's how appreciative people are nowadays.

Well I wish I could encounter more ppl like you congrats for being so generous on your time and for not looking down at others who did not acomplish as much as you did.

[Corrderio]

-snip-

It's sad how most of this community acts. If they don't like something they'll just boot instead of trying to work crap out.

[Fojoop]

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Crafting feels meaningless and whereas XI sent me to dangerous places mining or logging for potential big profits, this game is a mindless clusterfuck on the market boards and half the interesting things (fish mainly) are useless. I guess I'm biased because I usually level a consumable crafting class in an MMO and spend my free time loading up the AH with potions, food or whatever happens to be useful but there is nearly zero demand for that here.

In a game where you're supposed to be able to play a DoH job like a legitimate main class, there sure is a whole lotta nothing on that front. Bad enough you can't craft gear for lowbies because the entire pre-50 game is designed to be self-sufficient and food is completely useless. You thought Mithkabobs onry was a thing? Welp, in XIV nothing is a thing outside a handful of endgame raids which completely cratered my desire to level up CUL.

I keep hearing about more dungeons and boss encounters but where is the progression for crafters and gathering jobs? Why make these professions jobs if they're gonna be afterthoughts? It feels just like the 1.0 classes. Where are the big boss drops that craft into the endgame gear to have? Where is the rare loot to farm to craft neat shit out of? Where is the demand to propel consumable crafters?

I liked going around raising and teleporting/warping people in XI too when I was bored, it was so fun (one of the reason i was BLM/WHM was because it could do so many things). ;_;

This game has nothing like this, you won't find any low-level stuck in some hard position/lost in la theine plateau trying to get to the dunes/road for Jeuno because they can just teleport and death has no penalty. It sounds kinda dickish "i like to help low level ppl lol", but it really made the game-world much more interesting to me.

I too miss MMO's feeling like actual challenging worlds where you're constantly in danger and in need of help. Need people to help you level, need people to help you gear, need people to help you get story quests done, need people to travel quickly, need people for everything. That's what a MM should be, a world where everyone needs to help eachother out, not a world where everyone is soloing in their own little world ignoring everyone around them. I hate this solo-centric design MMO's have taken, because let's face it, MMO's are one of the worst solo experiences you can get in a video game. I play them to interact with other people.

I do not like the direction MMO's have taken this past decade, not at all.

[Jaybar]

The only dangerous places I've been in are beastmen strongholds - namely Larkscall. The dreaded chance to get heavy cast on you while being pummeled from afar by the magic wielding douchey fairies is the only remotely dangerous region I've come across. Now they just need to untether level 40+ mobs from their aggro plane. This would at least make the coffer chest hunt and atunement have a modicum of difficulty. It would make treasure hunts for elusive and rare items have an actual value attached to them because level 20s won't be able to just train through high level areas for a Rose Gold Ingot - double edged sword against low level RMT as well.

But who am I kidding, gotta let the casuals get the best crafting items and wash out the market.

[Kincard]

God that monster tether thing is annoying as shit. I pulled aggro on a ghost thing in Copperbell Mines like 2 or 3 times before I realized I kept resetting it because I made it move maybe 10 feet from its normal spawn point. Seriously, wat. Plus makes it so that some douchebag can reset a FATE because they have to go or something so they just run off and drag the boss with them. At least for the second point they made things in FATEs immune to Provoke.

Especially cute is how they think they worked around it with the monster heavy when all it does is annoy you for half a minute while the monster runs back to its spawn point.

[Corrderio]

I know what ghost you're talking about and holy crap that pisses me off to no end for some reason.

[dejet]

Ran DD last night, 2 DD a tank from my FC.

So puged a healer, we make it to the sandworm and wipe. We soon found the problem, the whm had a lvl20 wep and his cure2 was healing 163, this is like lol 42 cap or something.

We left and got another healer and cleared that shit. But my God 163 cure my friends lvl30 cnj Tested himself after and his cure1 does more lol