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  1. #7261
    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    I really wish that the LB class nerf was only for made parties or something.

    Trying to do titan HM for relic. Doing DF (ya I know I know), first group we had two war, two smn, two whm. That just wasn't happening. Second group has 3 smn and two whm. We actually kill the heart with only one lb, but still it's fucking close. Shit's retarded when it was SE rng that put us in that situation in the first place.

  2. #7262
    Bagel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Yeah if you finish the quest to unlock housing areas, you can teleport to it from the city's main aetheryte.
    I never even realized there were quests for it. I've just been running to the zones <_<;

  3. #7263
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    I really wish that the LB class nerf was only for made parties or something.

    Trying to do titan HM for relic. Doing DF (ya I know I know), first group we had two war, two smn, two whm. That just wasn't happening. Second group has 3 smn and two whm. We actually kill the heart with only one lb, but still it's fucking close. Shit's retarded when it was SE rng that put us in that situation in the first place.
    Yes this was a very shortsighted change.

    It should have been a bonus for having a diverse party, not a penalty.

    Also, do we know if the penalty gets worse with the more duplicate jobs you have?

    ie. Is the penalty for PLD+PLD(+6 unique jobs) the same as the penalty for PLDx2 WHMx2 BLMx4?

  4. #7264
    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Yes this was a very shortsighted change.

    It should have been a bonus for having a diverse party, not a penalty.

    Also, do we know if the penalty gets worse with the more duplicate jobs you have?

    ie. Is the penalty for PLD+PLD(+6 unique jobs) the same as the penalty for PLDx2 WHMx2 BLMx4?
    I have no idea though it seems like both groups ended up having around the same amount of LB when the heart phase started. But of course those were different dps so different speeds etc. etc.

  5. #7265
    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Yes this was a very shortsighted change.

    It should have been a bonus for having a diverse party, not a penalty.

    Also, do we know if the penalty gets worse with the more duplicate jobs you have?

    ie. Is the penalty for PLD+PLD(+6 unique jobs) the same as the penalty for PLDx2 WHMx2 BLMx4?
    It doesn't seem like it worsens, it's just automatically levied against you if you double up.

  6. #7266
    Old Odin
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    Joined an in progress CT, on Atomos. Had the dumbest fucking WAR in the universe in our party. On bomb miniboss he tanked another party's demon (despite the entire alliance telling him he's an idiot). On KB he just stood menacingly in front of his tower and everyone else had to hit it for him. Died to every meteor, didn't even try to run over. Died to every Ancient Flare. Didn't respond to anything so I can only assume he's illiterate or literally 5 years old. Despite having Bravura Zenith.

  7. #7267
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    I'm gonna give up queueing solo as DPS, It takes 80-120 minutes to get in... Guess I'll camp PF, Just need one more piece and I can forget about that place :/

    I'm also having a hard time with doing Primals via PF, most of my set is away for the holidays so I think I wont be doing them this week... I really hate joining one of those "blahblah know the strat - 2 fails = kick" only to find out it's them that don't know wtf they're doing, wish that worked both ways so I could fucking kick them out of the party even if they're the leader.

  8. #7268
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    80-120 to get into CT??? Your data center sucks then. I'm on primal and solo queue as MNK every couple hours between FC stuff. It's never taken more than 10mins to get into a fresh or in progress run.

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    Garuda.

    Why yes, I would like you to drop like three tank rings in a row.

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    Raaarrrgggh titan and lolps3 limitations. It's near impossible to find 7 other people who are competent and can dodge plumes/landslide. What infuriates me the most is when I watch tanks try to provoke switch immediately before landslide, run through titan, and get hit and fall off. Getting knocked off by sumo stomp comes in second.

    At least die to something like double plumes or adds.

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    I had a tank today that didn't know why he needed to pull the spiney plume away from the razor plumes.

    Never going to even see a ring because groups that can win require a win, and the others are stuck with 5 year olds as tanks.

    And the slip streams. the slip streams.

  12. #7272
    Resident Moogle
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    Getting hit by Archeron's AoEs in CT because my PS3's hard drive can't keep up with loading the god damn AoE hitbox animations in time every other run.

    I don't know whether to blame the hard drive (slapping in a hybrid SSD would probably fix it), or the programmers for not having this shit loaded into memory with the enemy model? Game is always too busy dealing with alliance parties' player models and their filtered animation effects (which it seems to still load regardless when you set stuff to limited/off, just doesn't display it)

  13. #7273
    a p. sweet dude
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruina View Post
    I had a tank today that didn't know why he needed to pull the spiney plume away from the razor plumes.

    Never going to even see a ring because groups that can win require a win, and the others are stuck with 5 year olds as tanks.

    And the slip streams. the slip streams.
    To be fair, it's pretty hard to tell when one of the three mobs I'm holding is doing a TP move when I don't have it targeted, and it doesn't have a distinct visual cue. I hate myself whenever I eat a Slipstream, but MTs have a lot going on in that fight and sometimes I just don't see my off-target readying Slipstream, and it doesn't even really do that much damage. For the Garuda-only phases though, it's pretty much inexcusable.

    Also, I died to Titan today because I started running back to position before the stomp went off and got shot in the opposite direction off the platform. I've killed myself a couple times tanking King Behemoth the same way by leaving the Comet too early. My girlfriend would probably say I finish too fast too.

  14. #7274
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    To be fair, it's pretty hard to tell when one of the three mobs I'm holding is doing a TP move when I don't have it targeted, and it doesn't have a distinct visual cue. I hate myself whenever I eat a Slipstream, but MTs have a lot going on in that fight and sometimes I just don't see my off-target readying Slipstream, and it doesn't even really do that much damage. For the Garuda-only phases though, it's pretty much inexcusable.
    Oh no, I'm talking when during the eye of the storm phase, Garuda turns around and slip streams the entire party for no particular reason.

    That type of agony.

  15. #7275
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narol View Post
    Garuda.

    Why yes, I would like you to drop like three tank rings in a row.
    Fuck you. 7 kills last night and only INT and DEX rings dropped. I still haven't seen a single tank ring at all.

  16. #7276
    a p. sweet dude
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    Me either. Three Striking, one Aiming, one Casting, one Healing. Starting to feel like I should just say screw it and go farm Ultima's instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    To be fair, it's pretty hard to tell when one of the three mobs I'm holding is doing a TP move when I don't have it targeted, and it doesn't have a distinct visual cue. I hate myself whenever I eat a Slipstream, but MTs have a lot going on in that fight and sometimes I just don't see my off-target readying Slipstream, and it doesn't even really do that much damage. For the Garuda-only phases though, it's pretty much inexcusable.
    It gets easier once you realize that Garuda and her add never use Slipstream at the same time. The very first one during the very first add-phase may be considered a double-Slipstream, but after that you can just dodge one, then focus on the other target to get out of Slipstream. It's possible to react to the glowing that accompanies Slipstream even if you don't have the user targeted, but since I've only ever done the fight on my laptop, which probably has a framerate below 10 during the post-2h-phase, I found it easier to target the next user and react to the casting bar. Not like it matters since it's not too bad an idea to keep STR-down up on both anyway. No idea if this is the same for Chirada, but when tanking Garuda and Suparna, it works.

  18. #7278
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyHobo View Post
    Fuck you. 7 kills last night and only INT and DEX rings dropped. I still haven't seen a single tank ring at all.
    Hey, I did all primals in 1 shot yesterday. Guess what? All dropped VIT accessories.

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    CoP Dynamis
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    Forgot to pass bard hands in CT this week. Was really looking forward to grinding out a fancy body armor. Any fancy body armor. =(

  20. #7280
    a p. sweet dude
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lepetit89 View Post
    It gets easier once you realize that Garuda and her add never use Slipstream at the same time. The very first one during the very first add-phase may be considered a double-Slipstream, but after that you can just dodge one, then focus on the other target to get out of Slipstream. It's possible to react to the glowing that accompanies Slipstream even if you don't have the user targeted, but since I've only ever done the fight on my laptop, which probably has a framerate below 10 during the post-2h-phase, I found it easier to target the next user and react to the casting bar. Not like it matters since it's not too bad an idea to keep STR-down up on both anyway. No idea if this is the same for Chirada, but when tanking Garuda and Suparna, it works.
    I've only ever tanked Chirada + Garuda, and only their very first Slipstream of the fight is synchronised. The rest are always staggered and between anticipating Wicked Wheel/Downburst, trying to position them both so that DPS don't get wrecked by tornadoes or Wicked Wheel, and having to track down the Spiny Plume, the subtle visual cue of Slipstream is sometimes lost on me. Garuda doesn't take damage while both sisters are up so I just stay on Chirada the whole time.

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