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  1. #7321
    Old Odin
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    Every PF on Hyperion that says they're experienced or "farming", isn't. It's just wiping for as long as you have patience for, as far as I've seen.

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    Lostbane
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    Not sure I agree with SE's ilevels for fights. You take 61s into Ultima and you'll be there til he casts. It's a DPS check just like Titan HM was. You end up having to set the ilevel for PF high just so people can't blag it.

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    Old Merits
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Every PF on Hyperion that says they're experienced or "farming", isn't. It's just wiping for as long as you have patience for, as far as I've seen.
    Same thing happening to me, doesn't matter if I join them alone or I make one with 3-4 other friends and fill the rest of the party via PF, doing anything harder than CT is a waste of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    Ultima should really be on farm status in DF/PF now, it certainly is on Tonberry.

    Garuda though, yeah, still having to wade through terrible groups.
    Personally I'd say Ultima is more difficult than Garuda Ex.

  5. #7325
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Personally I'd say Ultima is more difficult than Garuda Ex.
    The only difficulty in Ultima HM is the framerate crushing multi-plane crashes.

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    For Ultima HM I couldn't get a win for toffee in PF because DD's/Healers kept dying from not dodging or messing up orbs. Had to get the FC come out to kill it for me.

    Garuda Ex is pretty much just a DPS check. Only the MT has anything remotely difficult to deal with (and even that isn't that bad).

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    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruina View Post
    The only difficulty in Ultima HM is the framerate crushing multi-plane crashes.
    Doesn't really have anything to do with framerate it's just the explosion effects completely filling the screen so you can't see a damn thing.

    Like Meteor if you have all effects turned on for your party.

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    I have alot more luck with pug garuda ex than ultima, I think there are less good players on ultima seeing as its just stepping-stone gear. As a healer I find garuda and ultima to be comparable in difficulty as long as the others know what they are doing.

    A lot of the same people continuously do PF, its important to start remembering which people are good and who are bad to save time. I've tried to give people the benefit of the doubt but some people can't be helped. If you do well its more likely you can just talk to other people you've run with previously to start full or partial parties and go from there.

    Still trying to get my titan ex win. Went with a group where we were waiting for a guy who said he'd be back and never returned, ended up starting so late that half of use were too tired to do many runs and of course your reaction time slows. Had horrible lag new years, but seems to have fixed itself.

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    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    people who leave w/o pass or lotting the final chest item

    thanks i really wanted to wait 300s for this item to drop

    bonus hate: the fact that i have to fucking wait 300s for this item to drop to me when i'm the only one in the area

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    That... shouldn't ever happen. When has that happened to you? Leaving the instance is effectively an automatic pass. That's why people complain about getting loot in CT if everyone else in their party leaves before they've had the chance to pass.

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    Final Fantasy XI Music Devotee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    That... shouldn't ever happen. When has that happened to you? Leaving the instance is effectively an automatic pass. That's why people complain about getting loot in CT if everyone else in their party leaves before they've had the chance to pass.
    I'm guessing that this is new and was changed for CT, but applies to every dungeon. Just one more display of how poorly designed their CT drop system is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    That... shouldn't ever happen. When has that happened to you? Leaving the instance is effectively an automatic pass. That's why people complain about getting loot in CT if everyone else in their party leaves before they've had the chance to pass.
    Not in regular dungeons or primals anymore and its annoying as fuck. Use to auto-pass no idea why it doesnt now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Every PF on Hyperion that says they're experienced or "farming", isn't. It's just wiping for as long as you have patience for, as far as I've seen.
    For sure for Ultima pt's. I've yet to clear Ultima with a PF group.

    But I did do both Titan X and Ifrit X yesterday with 2 different PF groups, which was a pleasant surprise. Glad I was able to get this week's clear with FC still recovering from holidays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchDizzle View Post
    Not in regular dungeons or primals anymore and its annoying as fuck. Use to auto-pass no idea why it doesnt now.
    Greeeeeeat, yet another thing they neglected to mention in some patch notes then, I guess. I hadn't experienced this yet. I guess that makes my random complaint incomplete patch notes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    Greeeeeeat, yet another thing they neglected to mention in some patch notes then, I guess. I hadn't experienced this yet. I guess that makes my random complaint incomplete patch notes.
    Really hoping its a glitch that gets corrected soon and not something they did on purpose for some asinine reason like being able to select which quests you track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchDizzle View Post
    Not in regular dungeons or primals anymore and its annoying as fuck. Use to auto-pass no idea why it doesnt now.
    Doing X primals yesterday and half the pt left as soon as they saw drop didn't apply to them. Remaining 4 didn't have to wait 300s.

  17. #7337
    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    Greeeeeeat, yet another thing they neglected to mention in some patch notes then, I guess. I hadn't experienced this yet. I guess that makes my random complaint incomplete patch notes.
    Quote Originally Posted by ArchDizzle View Post
    Really hoping its a glitch that gets corrected soon and not something they did on purpose for some asinine reason like being able to select which quests you track.
    Pretty sure it's not a glitch. People were complaining that if you were the last one in a group and hadn't gotten a chance to pass, you'd get the item and then get locked out for the week.

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    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    It works that way in CT, but not for lower level dungeons. (Or, any other ones, really-- I've had to wait the full 300s in Pharos Sirius too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    It works that way in CT, but not for lower level dungeons. (Or, any other ones, really-- I've had to wait the full 300s in Pharos Sirius too)
    I got that on Satasha :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    It works that way in CT, but not for lower level dungeons. (Or, any other ones, really-- I've had to wait the full 300s in Pharos Sirius too)
    I haven't paid attention since 2.1, but I know that I constantly auto-got drops in AK or WP if people left without passing. I'll have to check again the next couple of times I do lower level dungeons.

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