FFXIV Random Complaint Thread: Look forward to it

**Jem** · 2014-01-17 10:50

Originally Posted by Narol

I asked and simply got some "we need to figure out what works for our group" and "every group does it differently, it's okay" with no real explanation of how we gained any kind of advantage. Especially when we never once transitioned into phase 6 without wiping horribly.

Suffice to say we had more than enough nuking power to kill the bugs. The tanks refused to accommodate this, though, and the OT would run off and stand where the phase 5 dreadnought spawns (often without all the bugs on him) and the MT would stand where the knight/soldier spawn. It was a clusterfuck.

I did a PUG run once where they refused to kill P4 spiders too and left me tanking the 4 stack Dread from P5 and then immediately fed P6 Dread the spiders too. So I had a 2 stack Dread and a 4 stack Dread on me. It was godawful and took us like an hour before we managed to clear (which only happened when they finally managed to kill P5 Dread just as P6 spawned)

Like you I was absolutely dumbfounded as to what benefit there was to doing it that way because they could have just AoE'ed the adds down with the rooks.

Was quite an eye-opening experience since my static has cleared handily before enrage for quite some time!

**Rocl** · 2014-01-17 13:34

vortex ring of casting is repaired by ltw
the rest of vortex rings are gsm

how/why

**Raldo** · 2014-01-17 13:36

wtf, that has to be some sort of error

You could probably report that in the in-game bugs section, if you wanted, not that it's a huge deal

**Arximiro** · 2014-01-17 14:23

"I need to find a crafter to repair my gear!!"

Said no one ever

**Rocl** · 2014-01-17 14:35

because you can't repair other people's gear in this game?

**Arximiro** · 2014-01-17 15:57

Originally Posted by Rocl

because you can't repair other people's gear in this game?

I was saying pretty much everyone uses the repair NPCs, it's one of the complaints by a lot of crafters that there is no point in repairing gear.

**Deadgye** · 2014-01-17 16:41

The whole repair/meld system is fucked, and can be easily fixed. Changing into your crafting class to make an item is mandatory because the game needs to use your characters stats which are affected by gear. However melding and repairing don't take any of that into consideration and simply use the level of the craft. (The animations use the crafts weapons so getting beyond that is the only real roadblock, but it's more like a bump.)

Just add in a request repair option, and have it and the request meld option query the characters class levels instead of current class+level. Then even if the npc repair was still better, it'd give manual repair a meaning in that you could repair gear inside instances.

**Kicoe** · 2014-01-17 17:38

Keeping an eye on IV Materia for a while now to meld i90 PVP stuff. I'm sure all this Savage Aim Materia IV will go nicely with his DEX+7 melds on MNK gear.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/6223148/

Spoiler: show

**Apeman** · 2014-01-17 19:31

Join a Garuda extreme "farming" group and on the first attempt we get to the second set of sisters and i pull hate of the first sister with my bard even though i had popped quelling strikes and only used raging strikes and internal release. Tank can't get hate back and it wipes us so the paladin tells us to not start dpsing right away. Next attempt we get to the same point but this time i have ballad on because a whm died earlier and i still pull hate after popping quelling strikes and only using raging strikes. Paladin calls me a terrible player and i should learn how to watch enmity bars and i do feel somewhat bad even though when i do this fight with my Coil static i never seem to pull hate with all my dps cooldowns used. I tell the group sorry and that i won't do it again so we try another. Next try when we get to that phase i put ballad on and don't use any cooldowns and watch as i barely avoid pulling hate with just normal move use. This time we kill first sister but not the second sister in time and we wipe to other sister still being alive when they warp. The same paladin then tells us it's the dps fault for not going hard enough to kill them and rage quits.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-01-17 19:35

I literally do not know how tanks can fail at a simple task like mashing 123 for hate.

**Shenrien** · 2014-01-17 21:12

Hey now, shield lob is a thing sometimes.

**Ezek** · 2014-01-17 21:19

Honestly, if you fail at holding threat in this game (especially as a PLD) then you should probably just stop playing video games.

**Korialstrasz** · 2014-01-17 22:19

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

I literally do not know how tanks can fail at a simple task like mashing 123 for hate.

There's a full i90 tank in my FC that still doesn't know how fucking provoke works and refuses to listen to us. Like straight "Im a tank ur not hurrdurr" type shit. Snakes just split? Provoke. Sisters just spawned? Provoke. Pulling the boss to begin with? Provoke.

**Ratatapa** · 2014-01-17 22:21

Originally Posted by Korialstrasz

There's a full i90 tank in my FC that still doesn't know how fucking provoke works and refuses to listen to us. Like straight "Im a tank ur not hurrdurr" type shit. Snakes just split? Provoke. Sisters just spawned? Provoke. Pulling the boss to begin with? Provoke.

I've seen someone pulling with voke then switching to sword oath, cuz he cannot lose hate after voke, so doesn't need shield oath

Can se fix the bug yet?

**Kaisha** · 2014-01-17 22:26

Other healer fucking up on Ifrit Ex, getting everyone damaged and knocked back by his debuff after last set of nails destroyed, right before hellfire comes and finishes us off since we couldn't top up again in time. Is it that hard to check the bloody timer on your personal buff bar?

Still no luck with my Titan clear this week either. Need me a static for this shit since it isn't hard at all, assuming you meet the connection check at least.

**fren.** · 2014-01-17 23:38

Garuda EM went from a farm to wipes non stop over the duration of two days and six parties. It's a fucking nightmare trying to find tanks that can stay alive. Fuck these primal fights in the ass.

**Niiro** · 2014-01-17 23:49

I've complained about the Sword/Shield oath enmity bug in this very thread, the fail:

All you have to do to prevent it is disable Shield Oath before using Sword, doesn't even cost an extra GCD.

**Elcura** · 2014-01-17 23:59

Originally Posted by Niiro

I've complained about the Sword/Shield oath enmity bug in this very thread, the fail:

All you have to do to prevent it is disable Shield Oath before using Sword, doesn't even cost an extra GCD.

If you go Shield > Sword, but disable Sword and reapply it, is the effect the same? I'm always very paranoid of this because of how easy it is to steal hate otherwise.

**Niiro** · 2014-01-18 00:24

It is as far as I can tell, but it's better to disable Shield first then apply Sword.

**Eleven19** · 2014-01-18 02:19

Fuckbag FC advertising for learning Garuda EX runs, whm bitch gets mayad on 3rd attempt after two successful pushes to last phase when we have a fluke (I'm the only god damn DPS targetting Satin Plume for some reason)... Exits, kicks some of the party members? That's how you advertise learning? Kick people who don't beat it after three attempts?

This game's mechanics make for an especially shitty playerbase in most cases. If I didn't have a loose group of people to play with this game wouldn't be fun even in the least.

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