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  1. #9141
    Ridill
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    Except you don't need to get MNK to 42 for Mantra, it's crap.

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    Relic Horn
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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    If you can click it, it's the right time to use it.

    Duh.
    Lol.

  3. #9143
    Relic Horn
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    Alternatively, you should have MNK at 50 already because it's the strongest physical DD job right now and a vast majority of BG types have 4+ jobs leveled by now, if not all 8.

    But then again, mine's still at 18, so grain of salt, etc.

  4. #9144
    Nikkei's Hoe
    Worse than her at uno

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    "Rocl your MP looks low do you need Ballad?"

    "wat is MP. oh that bar one sec-- okay my em pay isn't low anymore pls resume deeps"
    http://yourlisten.com/JessPlays/aeth...t-it-go-parody

  5. #9145
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    i never saw frozen and never saw the appeal to this song

    edit: if she was high enough to cast blizzard 3 she already had swiftcast rip immersion ruined

  6. #9146
    Nikkei's Hoe
    Worse than her at uno

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    You ruin everything.

  7. #9147
    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    i never saw frozen and never saw the appeal to this song

    edit: if she was high enough to cast blizzard 3 she already had swiftcast rip immersion ruined
    hi5

  8. #9148
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharv View Post
    It still pisses me off you have to get Monk to fucking 42 for Mantra. They had a pretty logical thing going on with the other sub classes. 26 or 34. Those were the two levels you got all the sub job abilities but Monk has to be an extra special snowflake.
    Just to back up others saying "just level monk it's cool," it's indeed a pain to level but actually pretty awesome at 50, with the added bonus of being able to parade Mantra in front the gimps. =p

    My experience was that I absolutely hated leveling it compared to DRG, which I did at the same time. But come 50 it suddenly gets hilariously buff, even if you just have the bare minimum gear, while becoming hilariously easy and "smooth" (if that makes any sense) to play at a very acceptable level compared to pretty much every other DPS role. It's literally all I use when I'm not being forced to play jobs I'm bored of (the ironic fate of anyone who has all jobs at 50, you no longer pick your role).

  9. #9149
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    I like jobs that are more complex like MNK and SMN, it's a little harder to master but so much fun to me. DRG was alright but I didn't care for it nearly as much as MNK.

    Having all jobs 50 blows. My love is BLM but I rarely get to play it. Forever a tank.

  10. #9150
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    I get to hit more buttons on DRG ergo it is more complex than MNK mmkay?

    Though really MNK isn't too bad now that I've given it a fair shake. Just I'm already invested in DRG.

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    I'm not takin anythin away from DRG, but mnk has to focus more on directional than drg. I don't play either that much, occasionally going mnk to t2 only because it's a higher ilvl

  12. #9152
    Ridill
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    but they don't get punished as heavily as drg's do where your best buffs/debuffs are reduced to zero for not getting a hit in.



    "heavy thrust. heavy thrust. ok heavy thrust again.

    ...

    rage full thrust combo"

  13. #9153
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    In A Realm Reborn there's been a pattern of either obtaining items for defeating powerful monsters or accumulating stones steadily over time, but we don't want to limit ourselves just to this, and we want to develop ways to foster a considerable amount of playtime. For example, one of the upgrade stages will require items that have a low probability of dropping.
    Oh fucking boy.

  14. #9154
    BG's most likeable Québécois
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyall View Post
    Oh fucking boy.
    and 1 week lockout for the event

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    and 1 week lockout for the event
    Of course. And it's 1 item used for every relic, so you'll be competing with your entire group every time.

  16. #9156
    Can you spare some gil?
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    The game needed something that could potentially spark drama from ninja lotting.

  17. #9157
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    Maybe you have to collect all the colored ponies so your weapon can get that perfect rainbow glow.

  18. #9158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyall View Post
    Of course. And it's 1 item used for every relic, so you'll be competing with your entire group every time.
    No, sir.
    Your LS leader will get first full relic carry and when they complete it the LS breaks and he claims the bank and possibly server jumps.

  19. #9159
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    Quote Originally Posted by OWS_Tonx View Post
    I'm not takin anythin away from DRG, but mnk has to focus more on directional than drg. I don't play either that much, occasionally going mnk to t2 only because it's a higher ilvl
    Quote Originally Posted by kisada View Post
    but they don't get punished as heavily as drg's do where your best buffs/debuffs are reduced to zero for not getting a hit in.
    ^

    DRG is penalized far more harshly than MNK for directional faults.

    MNK's cyclical combo system allows them to maintain a very orderly rotation because everything's intertwined (except ToD) and very fluent.

    MNK essentially has 1 combo with 3 steps with 2 WS options per step VS DRG which has 2 linear combos and 2 out-of-combo WSs with no real flexibility.

    1 "full rotation" on MNK is essentially 6 WSs (DK->Twin->Demo->Boot->True->Snap->repeat) with ToD tossed in at the player's discretion, the duration of DK and TS line up perfectly.

    DRG's rotation is much more complicated, Heavy is 20s, Phlebo is 18s, and Disembowel/Chaos are 30s. If you miss a directional attack at any point you need to re-adjust your entire rotation on the fly.

  20. #9160
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    DRG's rotation is much more complicated
    Let's not go there. DRG and MNK are simple and both require more thought when it comes to adapting to the fight (losing GL/no debuffs or heavy) rather than following a rote order of actions.

    But I suppose it's natural everyone thinks their job is the hardest lol.

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