FFXIV Random Complaint Thread: Look forward to it

[Lyall]

My Expert Roulette dropped my into Brayflox yesterday with a SMN and a DRG, neither with particularly stellar gear. Cue the healer bitching I'm not pulling it like a speed run, instead splitting the first room into 2 pulls and doing the first pack of gliders solo. I swear to high heaven, every single Bray I get into tells me I'm doing it wrong, be it BLM+BRDs bitching for doing rooms in one pull or shit like yesterday.

[Sephiroth]

I had a tank bitching at me last night for not knowing to LB the final boss just before he does his final set of adds/bombs/big bomb. Apparently you can kill it there if you time it right and DPS is high enough. I had figured the best time to LB is the last big pull before the final boss so I used it there. I tried it in my next group and he went into his add/bomb phase with about 1 HP left. Literally one prod after he came back and he died. So I'm not convinced it's possible to kill it before that phase.

[Obsidian]

It's absolutely possible, we do it nearly every run.

[Eidle]

My Expert Roulette dropped my into Brayflox yesterday with a SMN and a DRG, neither with particularly stellar gear. Cue the healer bitching I'm not pulling it like a speed run, instead splitting the first room into 2 pulls and doing the first pack of gliders solo. I swear to high heaven, every single Bray I get into tells me I'm doing it wrong, be it BLM+BRDs bitching for doing rooms in one pull or shit like yesterday.

Yea I feel bad for anyone who gets brayflox in DR, because theres always going to be someone in your group pushing for speed runs. They won't look at the group setup or peoples gear, they will just whine for SR pulls.

[OWS_Tonx]

I had a tank bitching at me last night for not knowing to LB the final boss just before he does his final set of adds/bombs/big bomb. Apparently you can kill it there if you time it right and DPS is high enough. I had figured the best time to LB is the last big pull before the final boss so I used it there. I tried it in my next group and he went into his add/bomb phase with about 1 HP left. Literally one prod after he came back and he died. So I'm not convinced it's possible to kill it before that phase.

It is mostly timing. As a BLM or SMN you'll want to send it off the moment the target icons from those sniper appear. Even though the boss will be half way across the room when the LB hits it'll kill him, it's kinda funny

[Sephiroth]

It's absolutely possible, we do it nearly every run.

I rarely do full speed runs (prefer to Sold cap via DR) so unless people mention these things they don't do it. The tank was like "does anyone know when to LB?" and I told him where I planned to LB. He said nothing until the big bomb popped and he was like "wtf why no1 lb?". (Was 2x BLM group) Communication is key in PF/DF groups, unfortunately most people suck at that bit.

It is mostly timing. As a BLM or SMN you'll want to send it off the moment the target icons from those sniper appear. Even though the boss will be half way across the room when the LB hits it'll kill him, it's kinda funny

I mentioned it in the group after that bad one (seriously 20+ minute run) and they said to LB when the HP bar is at the G in the mob name. Could be why it wasn't killing it, IE going off a second or two early.

[Drai]

I had a tank bitching at me last night for not knowing to LB the final boss just before he does his final set of adds/bombs/big bomb. Apparently you can kill it there if you time it right and DPS is high enough. I had figured the best time to LB is the last big pull before the final boss so I used it there. I tried it in my next group and he went into his add/bomb phase with about 1 HP left. Literally one prod after he came back and he died. So I'm not convinced it's possible to kill it before that phase.

100% possible, we've also been able to do it with 2 i80 BRD DPS, no melee LB at all lol

[Lyall]

100% possible, we've also been able to do it with 2 i80 BRD DPS, no melee LB at all lol

This has me skeptical. Doesn't he trigger the bomb phase at hp%?

[Seravi Edalborez]

He does, but the point is just to burst the shit out of him in that period between TRANSITION START (steam, adds pop) and him going untargetable. Offensive LBs just make that easier, but you can also just save every single cooldown for that.

Aside, I've had to solo that last few % after big bomb as WAR like 5 times because people don't dodge the charges during big bomb.

[OWS_Tonx]

you'd have to have some good burst damage and save those CDs I guess, thats some serious dps to pull it off lol. I've been close as BLM and BRD but never quite did it

[Yukari]

I've definitely done it as BLM//BRD. Brd usually saves Requiem for that phase for me, and I hope I can get a firestarter so I can do a firestarter and cancel it into LB.

[OWS_Tonx]

Oh, I meant dps burn without LB. We almost always skip last phase unless we time the LB wrong, which is rare

[Deadgye]

Straight Raging Hawks Blood Barrage Dots are usually enough to get him reaallly close to dead without the LB. If a warrior tank used berserk we could probably duo the damage required to kill it early by ourselves lol.

[Lyall]

Well I'll be. Thanks for the clarification, I had no idea.

[Drai]

Straight Raging Hawks Blood Barrage Dots are usually enough to get him reaallly close to dead without the LB. If a warrior tank used berserk we could probably duo the damage required to kill it early by ourselves lol.

This is pretty much exactly what we do, if i'm on my WAR, I usually pop Internal Release, Unchained, Berserk just before he goes all steamy and go to town.

[fliprock]

when you see the cannon go off on its head the first then that's the signal that adds come soon, second time cannon goes off adds pop

[Niiro]

Inspired by a post in the OFail thread about why there's still a lack of tanks, here's a brief list of QoL grievances that have to do (primarily) with tanking:

Tomahawk/Shield Lob
Range is too small, need an increase to 20. Chasing shit down is one of the most troublesome and annoying things to do as a tank, especially when you already have a mob that you don't want to move due to conal/AoE/fucking-with-the-melee concerns.

They also need an increase in either the direct potency or the hate modifier, they're already a major TP drain and interrupt any combos you might have had going, the least they can do is be worth it.

Provoke
Needs to have an additional effect similar to Taunt (1.0 PGL ability) that forces the mob to target the user for a certain amount of time (5-10s) regardless of enmity, so using it on a distant target doesn't cause it to turn right back around because another tick of a DoT/HoT happened before you could do anything else (would also make tank swapping a bit smoother).

This would also extend the number of uses for voke, you could open boss fights with it to ensure any ancy DPS that decide to open the fight with a flurry of CDs don't screw with hate before you can get off your first Halone/BB.

Flash/Steel Cyclone
Need an increase in range to at least 10.


All of these things would make tanking a less irritating/annoying role and would go a long way toward making people more willing to play them.

[OWS_Tonx]

I guess the other servers have it worse than mine, but currently there is a retardedly high demand for healers. Nobody wants to touch that shit it seems.

I do agree with the Tomahawk/shield lob idea and provoke sort of. Like you said, they're more of QoL than necessity to me. Currently I have no issues unless people don't pay attention or don't think

[Seravi Edalborez]

I wouldn't say there's so much a high demand for healers. More that most healers are secretly horrible. Worse than the tank "problem", imo.

[Niiro]

Also SE needs to stop arbitrarily making mobs that ignore block/parry.

It's not like Parry is an exotic stat, it's all over plenty of tank gear, it's just so stupid to make it completely useless on a whim because they don't want to take the time to design an encounter more thoroughly.