FFXIV Random Complaint Thread: Look forward to it

[Egon]

My complaint is I can not find a group that can defeat Titan EM. I really don't see the point of the echo. If you don't know the dance, you're gonna die, no matter how much HP or DPS you have. They should have just nerfed the fights, because the echo is 100% pointless. And yes, I'm all for nerfing older fights. My play time is very limited, and it's going to be even more limited as I will have a newborn in about 4 weeks.

[hagun]

No, no, you didn't understand me: tanks dealing as much damage as dedicated DDs is stupid design. You don't do something stupid and then force a suboptimal party composition and call it good.

Well, the idea here is to make tanks something that many people want to do. We are all in agreement here that tanks are in a short supply. The whole idea is to create this culture where people want to be tanks and there is an incentive for it, i.e. to make the class incredibly fun. The game is full of arbitrary restrictions that are stupid and really don't make sense, i.e. soldiery weekly cap or having a cap of only 2,000 myth or the previous CT lockout and so on, so making it so that you are restricted to two tanks (which everyone rolls with on serious content, in DF for example), isn't such an outlandish idea.

Remember, the idea isn't here to break the game so that DDs are rendered obsolete. The idea here is to create a solution to a very bad problem in the game. Making tanking a very deliciously fun class to play while restricting tanks to a maximum of two tanks for serious content shouldn't be an issue. Well, at least from my stand point. I realize many don't like the idea (i.e. the general resistance), but it's something I'd like to see nonetheless.

[Greedouw]

11/12 and this Atma of the Maiden will NOT drop...

[Izzy]

11/12 and this Atma of the Maiden will NOT drop...

Face southeast on windsday when you kill the last FATE mob.

[Tyche]

Tanks on Duty Finder that fucking leave after the 2nd boss. That's my god damned roulette you peice of shit. If you want to myth farm, do it in PF.

[Detzu]

i110 weapons (~i98 gear level). It's perfectly possible because the enmity modifiers are so incredibly high. If you actually thought I meant full i110... what?

You said ilvl 110 dps.

[Kaisha]

Worst part of it is, we were so close to clearing t7 too. We adjusted a bit, switched some stuff around and stopped fucking up for the most part. We were at petrifaction phase when we ended Wednesday. If we had another hour it would have been dead.

This is pretty much how my group felt last night, but all it takes is a single slip-up on a voice or renaud on what was otherwise a super smooth attempt, to ruin everyone's mood for the rest of the run.

There's just fuck-all for chance of recovery during any of the add phases. Just tired of wiping to it since consistency feels non-existent, making it hard to gauge the group's progress. First fight I've tried to clear where we're all slipping up more than once three sets of runs later.

No amount of changing up jobs or strats will make the voice mechanic any easier to deal with, which is probably the main thing bearing on me. Just have to tough it out and suck less, and hope the others are doing the same.

[Taim Meich]

Main tank and bard left the static for different reasons, and we're having a very rough time finding competent ones. At this rate we're going to start attempting T6 in 2 weeks or more ;_;

[FHT]

I'm holding hate off i110 dps with an i95 weapon easily. If you can't hold hate you're bad.

While I agree with you to a certain extend, I would like to point out something. You can easily hold hate from iLv110 DPS even with a Bravura Zenith, however it let you little to no space for Storm's Eye/Path which generate lesser enmity than Butcher Block. Also, if you look closely at the enmity generation, you will see that a BRD iLv110 for exemple will only catch up due to his fast dmg generation, let alone BLMs. Its very little but on a long fight it can be dangerous, and long fight require the 10% damage reduction most of the time. This is not dependant of the tank skills.

I agree with you that a good tank should be able to keep hate at any time, but a good DPS should also be able to look at his own enmity generation & think "Eek, I should slow down a little" more than to look at his parse & think "Ohh my number's are not high enough.. moar pew pew pew pew" especialy when there is a 15 iLv difference.


@ Niiro: Very nice ideas there.

[tenkiki]

Unrelated: not really a complaint but there's no RQT and it's not worth making a thread over really, but what the hell causes my choco to gain bonus exp seemingly at random:



Lvl 50, so no chains (mobs weren't even level 50 anyway), I can't seem to find any common cause for when it happens.

Also, is there anyplace else in the game with lvl 50 mobs besides Urth's Gift?

The bonus is most likely from mobs linking with others on pull due to being in a party. 1 link is +25% and 2 is +50% etc. Sad part is that I only figured this out today busting out my chocobo to get the challenge log completion with my friend while waiting for a FATE to spawn. For my complaint/question, I wish there was a way to use items via macro (putting a healing potion with 2nd wind or ether with mp recovery ability would be a nice small addition, maybe I'm just dumb and we already can?).

[Niiro]

Ah, that would explain it, I completely forgot linked mobs give bonus exp since you pretty much never kill mobs in a party outside of dungeons (where stuff doesn't link).

Afaik, no you can't macro items. I have no idea why.

[vrumpt]

Douchebag tanks exploiting no-penalty for roulette bail by cycling through expert roulette until they get brayflox. Just tried to queue halatali hard for animus book and got in tank bailed immediately. So fucking stupid.

[Indomitable Will]

I agree with this wholeheartedly. Tanking is honesty boring. There is nothing flashy about it and it's a thankless class.

I think the whole tanking system needs to be revamped. Why has every game turned tanks into the poorest damage dealer? Why not make tanks do a great deal of damage while being the party's first line of defense? There should be something glamorous about being a tank, not just a punching bag. A tanks should be up there able to pull off numbers with the best of the damage dealers.

Additionally, tanking needs to be easier to do. Right now tanking is the most difficult thing to do. There should be skills for tanks that make a tank a master of holding threat with little to no difficulty. There needs to be skills that focus on tanking multiple mobs over a wide area, not just single targets. The amount of time multiple mobs are tanked far exceeds that of single targets.

Again, there should be something thrilling about being a tank. Give tanks the ability to feel as epic as the damage dealers feel and the lack of tanks will be a problem solved overnight.

not sure if troll or...really, tanking is difficult in this game? has to be a troll, also, I enjoyed the pun (bolded), even if unintended. if you think tanking is hard in ffxiv you are probably bad at the game in general.

honestly the only thing i wish they would add for both tank jobs is an AoE around shield lob/tomahawk, not for more dmg or anything, but so that i don't have to lob 12 times during brayflox pulls lol...but really, shits not hard AT ALL

[OWS_Tonx]

In the same sort of boat as Vrumpt, as 2.2 rolled out a lot of my group has quit playing due to RL or went to a different coil group. Haven't even cleared T6 yet since we've only really went in about twice since release

[Rocl]

lost a week of progression due to pax
losing members this week

rip slaying dragons

[FHT]

not sure if troll or...really, tanking is difficult in this game? has to be a troll, also, I enjoyed the pun (bolded), even if unintended. if you think tanking is hard in ffxiv you are probably bad at the game in general.

What he mean by "Tanking is difficult" isn't related to the job spec itself. He's talking about the whole player mentality and expectations, where a tank is expected to know everything about everything.
For a DPS its fine, you can be new & no one will care as long as you can dodge and deal your good chunk of damage, for a tank its different, you have to know what is happening next, what phase you enter when X boss is getting down to X% HP etc.
Its not difficult to swing your weapon & repeat 2-3 combos to keep hate on 1-2 monsters or even to spam Overpower to keep 3+ monsters, but its difficult to be the leader role and get the blame for a tiny little mistake when the DPS around arn't even dodging repetitive mechanics that are slow to pop. As I said early, its not a bout scoring the highest number on a parse, its about dealing damage efficiently & seamessly.

[Kaisha]

Douchebag tanks exploiting no-penalty for roulette bail by cycling through expert roulette until they get brayflox.

Hope they fix low-lvl roulette being 95% Halatali/Tam-tara when they address it, because fuck tanking either on my WAR. One of the worst jobs to run a dungeon under 30, so I abuse that 'bug'.

[Ratatapa]

Hope they fix low-lvl roulette being 95% Halatali/Tam-tara when they address it, because fuck tanking either on my WAR. One of the worst jobs to run a dungeon under 30, so I abuse that 'bug'.

Quiet

[Buffy]

Hope they fix low-lvl roulette being 95% Halatali/Tam-tara when they address it, because fuck tanking either on my WAR. One of the worst jobs to run a dungeon under 30, so I abuse that 'bug'.

They already fixed it. You are getting so many low-level dungeons because of all the PS4 and Steam Players that are levelling.

[Korialstrasz]

Whoever designed the ledges that the silverpots are on for the Kobold dailies is a sick bastard.