FFXIV Random Complaint Thread: Look forward to it

[lilbubbles]

The whole hypocrisy about not wanting hand-holding, but never wanting to teach others doesn't really help people in this genre, either. And I get doing it over and over can suck, that people not listening are a pain, or that being stuck one some quest phase for weeks on end just makes you want to shoot yourself. I do feel like such burdens can be alleviated a little via SE, but after a point, sometimes a vote kick or voluntary quit is the more prudent solution. I'm all about making content more inclusive, but it's also up to an individual to be worth including.

The best part, you can't really critique people for having low dps or how to improve it, since talking about dps in game can get you banned. D:

[Taint]

A simple DPS system SE could implement is after each victory show the DPS rankings. I think the biggest problem is people don't know they suck and then take offense when people tell them. A third party system would help their understanding. Rank the tanks and healers too, so everyone can laugh, cry and interact after each instance. People will get reputations for always being first and people will try to knock them off.

Parsing was fun in 11 and openly discussed in game. People were known for being good parsers and others always tried to keep up or beat them, leading to better overall DPS quality.

[Dammerung]

Vindicuts implemented DPS ranking at the end of each fight - it just showed the % done by the guy in first, then for you only, it showed your % to compare. They display it in pvp already, so it's dumb that you can't even have one that just shows your own personal performance. It wouldn't even cost any server resources if they just built it into the client.

[tenkiki]

A simple DPS system SE could implement is after each victory show the DPS rankings. I think the biggest problem is people don't know they suck and then take offense when people tell them. A third party system would help their understanding. Rank the tanks and healers too, so everyone can laugh, cry and interact after each instance. People will get reputations for always being first and people will try to knock them off.

Parsing was fun in 11 and openly discussed in game. People were known for being good parsers and others always tried to keep up or beat them, leading to better overall DPS quality.

Would be nice to just copy/paste the pvp end results to all dungeons/fights, but given the community's implementation of certain features like vote kick and vote abandon, I could see it being abused, but if it means better overall dps I'm all for it.

[Kaisha]

You can silence stomps? .

Silence him sometime between the second and third stomp, and he'll never do more than four. Essential trick for bikini runs.

[Patriarch]

Vindicuts implemented DPS ranking at the end of each fight - it just showed the % done by the guy in first, then for you only, it showed your % to compare. They display it in pvp already, so it's dumb that you can't even have one that just shows your own personal performance. It wouldn't even cost any server resources if they just built it into the client.

This would be awesome.

Also a way to show competency of tanks and healers

[Rocl]

I swore Scholar fairies used to interact with each other and there was even a devblog about it, but they don't seem to anymore ; = ;

[Obsidian]

Parsing was fun in 11 and openly discussed in game. People were known for being good parsers and others always tried to keep up or beat them, leading to better overall DPS quality.

Largely disagree because there were so many things that influenced parsing results and skewed them in the favour of one job or another. Long ass fight? MNK will probably win. Short ass fight? SAM or WAR will probably win. Voidwatch? SAM or WAR, maybe relic RNG is definitely going to win. It's the same thing here. DPS is kind of a stupid thing to use as a metric when so much influences it. Even using total damage isn't idiot proof because parsers have to guess at DoT damage. It's useful for checking accuracy and getting a general idea of how people are doing, but beyond that it's not a great thing to depend on.

[Seravi Edalborez]

I swore Scholar fairies used to interact with each other and there was even a devblog about it, but they don't seem to anymore ; = ;

You mean beyond the old "trying to share the same target ring space on the ground" that most mobs do? They removed that when they removed pets doing that to other mobs I thought.

[Rocl]

I always assumed the behaviour they showed here:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000079.html

was intended to be cutsie girl talk between fairies; might've just been trying to share the same space and everyone thinking it was an idle animation (like what minions do now, coeurl & wolf etc)

[Jem]

A simple DPS system SE could implement is after each victory show the DPS rankings. I think the biggest problem is people don't know they suck and then take offense when people tell them. A third party system would help their understanding. Rank the tanks and healers too, so everyone can laugh, cry and interact after each instance. People will get reputations for always being first and people will try to knock them off.

Parsing was fun in 11 and openly discussed in game. People were known for being good parsers and others always tried to keep up or beat them, leading to better overall DPS quality.

Plus maybe this would mean that DPS actually get some fucking credit/commendations when people see the better ones in the end results. It's criminal how underappreciated DPS are. You can do 3-4x more damage than the next nearest DPS (which regularly happens in trials) or do stuff like solo all the damage on Titan Hard from Heart onwards and walk away with no commendations for carrying a group of retards.

Commendations are pretty pointless but still annoys the shit out of me that like 95% of people don't even realise when 1 DPS is carrying the group.

[Neon_Sea]

Or how mysteriously the only conflags that blow up are the ones that I am in? It really is a shame, if anything it would raise the accountability of useless players and maybe even inspire them to actually ...gasp..learn how to play their class.

[Korialstrasz]

I want it to be added just to see the bitching, moaning, QQ, fucktarded excuses etc when the game tells somebody that they're total crap.

[Lyall]

Stuff about moving FCs

It's not even the sentimental part keeping me from moving on. My FC is basically the small handful of RL friends and family, but my schedule is the main thing keeping me out of groups. I'm home from work by about 4pm, unavailable around 6pm and not back until 8pm~ and completely unavailable weekend nights until waaaaay late. Not to mention being in bed by 10pm weeknights. My shit's so sporadic I'd never be able to commit to an actual raiding schedule anymore.

[FHT]

I want it to be added just to see the bitching, moaning, QQ, fucktarded excuses etc when the game tells somebody that they're total crap.

This would be unavoidable and some of it could be justified. You can parse 4 BLMs alltogether with exact same gears and understanding/skill of the job, there is a good chance one of them will be more lucky than the others with his Firestarter procs giving him an advantage on numbers.

The same apply to parse such as BRD vs DRG or MNK, The BRD will have an unfair advantage against the 2 others simply because it does not require any positioning. This being said, on a target that does not stop moving its difficult to do well against a BRD.

I am a WAR main and I do everything with it, in many parties I joined I saw alot people show a huge amount of stupidity towards MNKs/DRGs who could not keep up with a BLM. This is unrealist to expect a MNK or DRG to keep up/do more damage than a good/well skilled BLM depending the fight (adds?/no adds?/Move often?/static?)

This is why its good the way it is right now, because a lot of people are not able to put things into perspective.

[Taint]

Largely disagree because there were so many things that influenced parsing results and skewed them in the favour of one job or another. Long ass fight? MNK will probably win. Short ass fight? SAM or WAR will probably win. Voidwatch? SAM or WAR, maybe relic RNG is definitely going to win. It's the same thing here. DPS is kind of a stupid thing to use as a metric when so much influences it. Even using total damage isn't idiot proof because parsers have to guess at DoT damage. It's useful for checking accuracy and getting a general idea of how people are doing, but beyond that it's not a great thing to depend on.

In true parsing contest in 11 you came on the proper job. Usually SAM WAR or DRK.

Sure in a competent group the parse results mean jack shit. But most of us are referencing the bads. The results would show carries like Jem was talking about and would also show the DPS that don't carry their weight. Or the Mage who does 80% of the curing in a fight.

Some will stay bad but enough will wonder why they suck and ask or research improving the overall community.

[Hiryo]

stuff

Your posts make me want to cry Lyall, lol. If i could server hop for just a weekend to Balmung I would.

[dejet]

Bard unfair advantage vs DRG or monk? Wtf crack you smoking? If your bards ever out DPS a monk or DRG kill the DRG or monk.

My monk out dpsed i85+ bards when it was i70 with melds.

As for blm? In and long fight a few extra procs won't matter. We have an understanding of what the average should be.

40% rate. Over the course of a 10mim fight it will always even out. Don't try and think for a second we are talking about someone who is +/- 5%. This is more about how someone in the same gear can do upwards of 100+ DPs more. No amount of luck will ever play a role in that.

[ronin sparthos]

A simple DPS system SE could implement is after each victory show the DPS rankings. I think the biggest problem is people don't know they suck and then take offense when people tell them. A third party system would help their understanding. Rank the tanks and healers too, so everyone can laugh, cry and interact after each instance. People will get reputations for always being first and people will try to knock them off.

Parsing was fun in 11 and openly discussed in game. People were known for being good parsers and others always tried to keep up or beat them, leading to better overall DPS quality.

I think you know as well as I that this is the road to elitism and people getting snubbed because they're doing worse than the ilvl100s doing DF for a daily versus the newbie doing dungeons for gear. Can't meet some arbitrary standard? It's time to vote kick. This happens already without the Yoshida approved parser and the last thing the game needs are people getting booted from Halatali/Haukke HM as has been the case (in the past) with faceroll WP and AK.

Yes, some people suck. They suck real bad. Parse whoring isn't going to change that, it's just going to drop the floor on the middling peeps and create a feeding frenzy beneficial to only the most hardcore. Save that type of behavior for EX and raid groups where you need to actually filter out bads.

[Oreth]

This fucking option being next to the quit option... Swear gives me a heart attack every time i click by mistake.. Luckily there is a confirmation window but shit i can totally see myself clicking yes instead of no at some point from being tired or drunk...