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  1. #11321
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    What the fuck is it with WARs and this tiny dick syndrome they've got going on? I can't even do any 8-man stuff these days without a WAR insisting on fighting me for hate, even when i'm outgearing them considerably.

    I can't even move the fucking bosses in Meridianum to the doorways without the WAR spamming Provoke/Tomahawk and pulling it away to somewhere that makes little sense for ease of add control. Ditto this same behavior in Extremes. It's always a WAR. I've never had this issue with any PLD in the entirety of ARR.

    jesus christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edelweiss View Post
    What the fuck is it with WARs and this tiny dick syndrome they've got going on? I can't even do any 8-man stuff these days without a WAR insisting on fighting me for hate, even when i'm outgearing them considerably.

    I can't even move the fucking bosses in Meridianum to the doorways without the WAR spamming Provoke/Tomahawk and pulling it away to somewhere that makes little sense for ease of add control. Ditto this same behavior in Extremes. It's always a WAR. I've never had this issue with any PLD in the entirety of ARR.

    jesus christ
    Paladins do it, too. I might be i99 in welfare gear but the HP gap is still there, and it doesn't stop other paladins from shield oathing it up and standing in cleaves. I've just started wearing my "dps" gear and not even trying on Roulettes.

    Edit: It's always some fucker wielding a weapon from Twin, too.

  3. #11323
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    I always seem to get princess PLDs for trial roulettes in Ifrit HM.

    I give them 1 minute until I pull the mob on SCH. If you can't figure out who's the MT and OT within that time period, you only have yourself to blame.

    I usually sacred soil and have eos ready, just in case the DPS are too herp to move out of incinerate.

  4. #11324
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    Trials roulette is the only roulette I do solo, and it's usually on WAR. I never ask to MT, and the other tank always charges in anyway. More often than not the other tank will be unable to keep hate off me while I cycle the two debuff combos without defiance on.

    Duty Finder da bess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruina View Post
    I always seem to get princess PLDs for trial roulettes in Ifrit HM.

    I give them 1 minute until I pull the mob on SCH. If you can't figure out who's the MT and OT within that time period, you only have yourself to blame.

    I usually sacred soil and have eos ready, just in case the DPS are too herp to move out of incinerate.
    Real tanks should pull once Adlo goes up, no exceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyall View Post
    Real tanks should pull once Adlo goes up, no exceptions.
    No, real tanks pull when adlo's at 2 seconds and i'm juST ABOUT TO REFRESH IT WTF I HATE ALL THE HATE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruina View Post
    No, real tanks pull when adlo's at 2 seconds and i'm juST ABOUT TO REFRESH IT WTF I HATE ALL THE HATE!!!
    "lol its just ifirt bro chillax"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyall View Post
    "lol its just ifirt bro chillax"
    You can say that tanks in the DF get me heated up.

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    That pun blew over my head.

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    Does this happen often for you guys? Maybe your datacenters suck. I never run into these issues, and I queue multiple trials roulette in a day for kicks.

    Trials roulette as a tank: Go on protect. Pulling first generally means unspoken MT status. If the other tank can rip hate off of me then they've earned it. Whatever.
    Trials roulette as a healer/dps: 9/10 of the time a tank pulls after stoneskins, the 10th time I say "go" and they go.

    Not that every trials roulette is a walk in the park. I've wiped to not killing ifrit nails in time and not killing enough moogles in time. But sometimes it's just ifrit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaixin View Post
    Does this happen often for you guys? Maybe your datacenters suck. I never run into these issues, and I queue multiple trials roulette in a day for kicks.

    Trials roulette as a tank: Go on protect. Pulling first generally means unspoken MT status. If the other tank can rip hate off of me then they've earned it. Whatever.
    Trials roulette as a healer/dps: 9/10 of the time a tank pulls after stoneskins, the 10th time I say "go" and they go.

    Not that every trials roulette is a walk in the park. I've wiped to not killing ifrit nails in time and not killing enough moogles in time. But sometimes it's just ifrit.
    It's the nature of the thing. When one tank clearly has hate, you'd think they would drop Shield/Defiance and just let it happen, but no. Some people need to prove they can outthreat someone in better gear than them. If I see another tank with similar HP to mine I just immediately swap to str accessories.

    Edit: I had a tank with 5200 hp "call dibs" on tanking Hydra one weekend and provoked off of me at every chance. I was drunk and fairly sure I was being trolled but it still threw me for a loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solracht View Post
    Trials roulette is the only roulette I do solo, and it's usually on WAR. I never ask to MT, and the other tank always charges in anyway. More often than not the other tank will be unable to keep hate off me while I cycle the two debuff combos without defiance on.

    Duty Finder da bess

    I do and experience the same thing.
    However, a couple days ago I went to queue and saw dps was AiN, so figured wth, and went SMN. It was Titan hard and much lols were had. MT fell off the arena with the first jump and OT got landslided off before he could grab hate. I swiftcast Titan-egi but both brd's die before it gets hate. I get it in position, brd's get rez'd and we proceed to 1-shot it. 4 commendations, which is more than I've ever gotten tanking as war. Lol guess this woulda belonged more in random praise.

  13. #11333
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    Got a spiritbond potion from a venture today and it said spiritbond +3, I'm positive when they came out they said +30 cause I read one and thought "whoa, that's a big jump". Annoyed they were probably never 30 to begin with, anyone else remember reading them saying +30?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyall View Post
    If I see another tank with similar HP to mine I just immediately swap to str accessories.
    I do the reverse. I queue with DPS accessories, and if I see a tank with similar HP to mine, then I swap to tank gear because I know they suck real bad. Tanking trials is piss easy, so I'd rather be the one doing the DPS since I know most DF tanks don't carry around DPS accessories, or worse as some have mentioned, don't even drop to a DPS stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Got a spiritbond potion from a venture today and it said spiritbond +3, I'm positive when they came out they said +30 cause I read one and thought "whoa, that's a big jump". Annoyed they were probably never 30 to begin with, anyone else remember reading them saying +30?
    They were always 3

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    It's impossible to get tanks to stack on Hydra to split damage, and impossible to keep them apart for cleaves on Ifrit/Garuda/Titan.

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    People still stack for hydra? Given tank hp now I just solo eat it since it doesn't even so 40% to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaixin View Post
    Trials roulette as a healer: 7/10 of the time a tank stands there picking his nose after stoneskins, the other three times he doesn't wait for buffs at all.
    ^

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    Idk if its fail or win. Garuda HM today.

    8 sisters pairs with twice one sister getting off their move. Me and the other whm both almost ran out of mp due to tanks suxking and letting adds rape us.

    Still won after the 8th set went down. We made two lvl 3 limit breaks lol

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    I find whenever I queue healer/dps on trial roulette I always end up with complete garbage for the rest of the group. If I queue tank, always a one-shot, even though I get Titan 90% of the time on it.

    Which is good, since gil bonus for tank every time I do my roulettes.

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