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  1. #13621
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    no they basicly wanted to run to boss rooms and wipe their while the smn and me resurrect each other with swift cast resurrection, i dont see the fucking point, those low lvl dungeon dont reward any tombstones or anything.
    The Nexus light bonus on lowbie dungeon is "blinding." The right PT can sac pull AV, Brayflox, SV and Haukke easily - 10-12m runs.

    If you were gonna do that, though, you shouldn't use DF.

  2. #13622
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    The Nexus light bonus on lowbie dungeon is "blinding." The right PT can sac pull AV, Brayflox, SV and Haukke easily - 10-12m runs.

    If you were gonna do that, though, you shouldn't use DF.
    Unless you get lights queueing for specific dungeons you have to; can't do low lvl roulette in a party.

  3. #13623
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    Can always do that 'language rarely used queue up all at the same time' trick, if you really want.

  4. #13624
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    Tanks' obsession with marking and following marks. The attitude of "if you don't follow my marks, i'm just going to let you die until you learn your lesson," "DPS should throttle their DPS so they don't pull aggro."

    GIVE ME A BREAK

  5. #13625
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    These FATE boss mob requirements for daily hunts are pretty annoying. The spawn times are ridiculous.

  6. #13626
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaixin View Post
    Tanks' obsession with marking and following marks. The attitude of "if you don't follow my marks, i'm just going to let you die until you learn your lesson," "DPS should throttle their DPS so they don't pull aggro."

    GIVE ME A BREAK
    As a tank main, this pisses me off immensely. You're not the party police. Do your fucking job so DPS can go unthrottled. If they have to throttle theirselves for any reason it's a tank failure, not a DPS failure.

    That it's a highly parroted opinion on Reddit and OF just makes it worse.

  7. #13627
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    Quote Originally Posted by JigglyJam View Post
    These FATE boss mob requirements for daily hunts are pretty annoying. The spawn times are ridiculous.
    Why in gods name would you actually do those.

  8. #13628
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    As a tank main, this pisses me off immensely. You're not the party police. Do your fucking job so DPS can go unthrottled. If they have to throttle theirselves for any reason it's a tank failure, not a DPS failure.

    That it's a highly parroted opinion on Reddit and OF just makes it worse.
    That's probably because most DPS are super obnoxious when they pull hate. I agree with you, but some people are unreasonable and on the whole a DPS learning to check themselves serves as a great lesson for later fights.

    It's shocking the amount of DPS that can't control their DPS.

  9. #13629
    Online Dating DOES Work!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Why in gods name would you actually do those.
    I had a guy yesterday who refuses to interact with randoms as much as possible do then. The hunt tracker was actually @50 minutes to the next possible opening and even then, this guy has no hunt linkshells and little interest in getting 1. Coupled with a slow HDD, when I hunt with him he's always the last one to load in.

    Sucks, but I guess thats some people's "only" option :\

  10. #13630
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    That's probably because most DPS are super obnoxious when they pull hate. I agree with you, but some people are unreasonable and on the whole a DPS learning to check themselves serves as a great lesson for later fights.

    It's shocking the amount of DPS that can't control their DPS.
    Only example I can really think of is BRD kiting around when they have hate, or BLM literally opening with buffed Flare. In virtually every other case it's basically tank's fault for not securing hate. Not that you need to hold every mob for 100% of their HP anyways.

  11. #13631
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    I don't mean super obnoxious in action, most just stand there like lemons without popping CDs or run around like headless chickens. That much is easily dealt with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Not that you need to hold every mob for 100% of their HP anyways.
    It's mostly shit like that. If a mob is at 10% HP and moves to a DPS, some will complain if you don't get hate back (rather than pop a CD) or get pissy. Everyone is annoying, just depends on where you stand lol.

  12. #13632
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    Oh, thought you meant DPS being obnoxious like deliberately doing dumb things, not just being dumb people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Why in gods name would you actually do those.
    Windows down/completionist's sake idk.

    I stop camping when hunt ls picks up a mob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaixin View Post
    Tanks' obsession with marking and following marks. The attitude of "if you don't follow my marks, i'm just going to let you die until you learn your lesson," "DPS should throttle their DPS so they don't pull aggro."

    GIVE ME A BREAK
    It's not just tanks, occasionally, as a tank who doesn't mark unless something is really complex or I really want to spell something out, sometimes I'll notice someone else in party starts marking things. I make it a point to unmark them whenever I see that shit start up.

    Also anyone that feels the need to mark the last mob. 3-mob pull, marks #1 and #2 aren't even needed but the moment that #3 goes up...

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    duty server shitting itself on aether

  16. #13636
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    It's not just tanks, occasionally, as a tank who doesn't mark unless something is really complex or I really want to spell something out, sometimes I'll notice someone else in party starts marking things. I make it a point to unmark them whenever I see that shit start up.
    I can sort of understand not marking because you believe people are telepathic or something, but actually un-marking is just fucking stupid.

  17. #13637
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    >Not marking with square and triangle on a 3-mob pull.

    Bonus points for following them in order every pull, but switching the order up after every boss. Super bonus points for not wearing a job crystal.

  18. #13638
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    Don't have to be telepathic to know fodder mobs dont need an order.

    At least in most places now... hell in a lot of dungeons we just pull like 8-10 mobs or so and aoe em down.

    good tanks is hard to find though :I

  19. #13639
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    What gets me is someone else marking, but also marking in a shit order (like bees that can do final sting not being #1, or those fucking Aevis things in SV HM not being #1).

  20. #13640
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    good tanks is hard to find though :I
    We're too busy out-dps'ing the DPS in our STR gear of course ( while still keeping hate ).

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