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  1. #13641
    Yarglebargle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbyprime View Post
    We're too busy out-dps'ing the DPS in our STR gear of course ( while still keeping hate ).
    I love the shitty tanks in ST that voke bosses off me. It's like: "Dude, look my gear, now look at yours, now back to mine, now back to yours. You're not taking fucking hate off of me, ever. Now be a good little bitch and take care of the adds."

    And then the healers just let me die even though I'm the only one taking damage and there are 6 of them in the alliance. Wiped to Xande TWICE last night, cause people just let me die. NOBODY ELSE TAKES DAMAGE IN THAT FIGHT WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING?

  2. #13642
    A. Body
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    Quote Originally Posted by The47thSen View Post
    I can sort of understand not marking because you believe people are telepathic or something, but actually un-marking is just fucking stupid.
    It's not stupid at all. Probably the most concise way of telling whoever's doing it to knock it off. Also what others said, no need to be telepathic to see what I'm targetting. I'm going to be generating enough aoe hate at the start of pulls anyway it really doesn't matter what you fight.

  3. #13643
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
    I love the shitty tanks in ST that voke bosses off me. It's like: "Dude, look my gear, now look at yours, now back to mine, now back to yours. You're not taking fucking hate off of me, ever. Now be a good little bitch and take care of the adds."

    And then the healers just let me die even though I'm the only one taking damage and there are 6 of them in the alliance. Wiped to Xande TWICE last night, cause people just let me die. NOBODY ELSE TAKES DAMAGE IN THAT FIGHT WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING?
    Actually everyone takes.....quite a lot of damage in that fight.

    It gets worse as the fight goes on, after the 2nd starfall he's dishing out quite a fuckton of raidwide damage at a pretty regular basis.

    Also I usually just let other tanks take the boss even if their gear sucks, because no one ever fucking takes the adds so I might as well do it while the other 2 tanks dick wave over who gets to stand still and do the easy job.

  4. #13644
    Yarglebargle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Actually everyone takes.....quite a lot of damage in that fight.

    It gets worse as the fight goes on, after the 2nd starfall he's dishing out quite a fuckton of raidwide damage at a pretty regular basis.

    Also I usually just let other tanks take the boss even if their gear sucks, because no one ever fucking takes the adds so I might as well do it while the other 2 tanks dick wave over who gets to stand still and do the easy job.
    My bad I guess, all I know is I shouldn't be dying when I'm using my cooldowns properly. Sitting at <2k hp for 10 seconds at a time is unacceptable.

    Also I would love to let the other tanks tank the boss if they could actually keep hate off of me when I'm not tanking. I'm not going to slow down my dps because of their shitty gear and if I'm going to be tanking then I better be in defiance cause the healers I get are so fucking god awful that I won't live without it.

  5. #13645
    Melee Summoner
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    You just learn to accept that you'll be tanking ST as a 6.2k HP Sword Oath PLD after a while. Just apologize to the healers and keep on.

  6. #13646
    Black Belt
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    Arthars Menethil
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    to me, if your in B and is the MT for the syrcus tower, just fucking suck it up, drop your ego and do shield oath/defiance and go hybrid set at minimum and tank it properly

    dont even give god a chance to fuck you up and waste other 23 peeps time

    i know i know, "i have done it before so why not for more deeps" but you know what i mean

    also you wont know when you get shitty healers, so just play safe

  7. #13647
    Bagel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    I don't mean super obnoxious in action, most just stand there like lemons without popping CDs or run around like headless chickens. That much is easily dealt with.



    It's mostly shit like that. If a mob is at 10% HP and moves to a DPS, some will complain if you don't get hate back (rather than pop a CD) or get pissy. Everyone is annoying, just depends on where you stand lol.

    Bonus points if the guy being attacked by a mob he pulled hate from at 5% proceeds to switch targets. I love those people.

    Only times I ever mark targets are situations where it might be crucial to attack the right one, such as the transforming guys in SV Hard, assuming someone seems like they might be in there for the first time. Alternatively, dangerously large pulls in Lowlevel Roulette for which it would be better to quickly reduce the damage output of the enemy group.

  8. #13648
    CoP Dynamis
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    It's probably not worth arguing. From all the posts I'v seen on here, reddit or the OF, it seems like the western mentality is that you should know how do something right, if not you're bad and you should be picked on.

  9. #13649
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    Quote Originally Posted by The47thSen View Post
    It's probably not worth arguing. From all the posts I'v seen on here, reddit or the OF, it seems like the western mentality is that you should know how do something right, if not you're bad and you should be picked on.
    No, the western mentality is even though I have no evidence, I'm right, you're wrong, and not only are you wrong, you're insulting me by being wrong, so when I'm an asshole to you, I'm being a good guy.

    EG:
    Tanks who can't generate aggro properly will "let DPS die" so they learn a lesson
    DPS who can't DPS for shit will bitch out tanks for not being in defiance
    Heals who refuse to heal the tank because the tank didn't wait for stoneskin before every pack

    I just want to grab them and shake them and shout I BEAT THIS GAME FIVE MONTHS BEFORE YOU EVEN GOT A CHOCOBO! STOP BEING SO PETTY! WE'RE IN TAM TARA--THIS IS A BEGINNER LEVEL DUNGEON--AN AI FAIRY CAN HEAL THE WHOLE THING IT LITERALLY DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU DO

  10. #13650
    D. Ring
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    Whoa there buddy. Get some therapy for that rage pronto! It's just a video game. People are pretty damn stupid but don't let it ruin your day. Usually I go play arkham or something else to get dat anger out. Might help!

    Also fuck DF Titan Ex.

  11. #13651
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    or learn japanese and come JP server ^Q^

    chances are you will meet very nice JP girls/teachers along the way than meeting assholes in the same timeframe

  12. #13652
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    EG:
    Tanks who can't generate aggro properly will "let DPS die" so they learn a lesson
    DPS who can't DPS for shit will bitch out tanks for not being in defiance
    Heals who refuse to heal the tank because the tank didn't wait for stoneskin before every pack

    I just want to grab them and shake them and shout I BEAT THIS GAME FIVE MONTHS BEFORE YOU EVEN GOT A CHOCOBO! STOP BEING SO PETTY! WE'RE IN TAM TARA--THIS IS A BEGINNER LEVEL DUNGEON--AN AI FAIRY CAN HEAL THE WHOLE THING IT LITERALLY DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU DO
    This needs to be in the game's system message. Exactly how I feel.

    Add "DPS and tanks who bitch at me for not stoneskinning them pre-pull" i'll only use stoneskin situationally!

  13. #13653
    Old Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaixin View Post
    I just want to grab them and shake them and shout I BEAT THIS GAME FIVE MONTHS BEFORE YOU EVEN GOT A CHOCOBO! STOP BEING SO PETTY! WE'RE IN TAM TARA--THIS IS A BEGINNER LEVEL DUNGEON--AN AI FAIRY CAN HEAL THE WHOLE THING IT LITERALLY DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU DO
    this is so true lol, i literally let once only my AI Fairy handle the cureing in tam-tara while I was nukeing constantly lol

  14. #13654
    Hyperion Cross
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    this is so true lol, i literally let once only my AI Fairy handle the cureing in tam-tara while I was nukeing constantly lol
    It works if the tank/dps isn't dumb pulling packs.

    Had people complain about me being in cleric stance DPSing and not healing too (fairy was fine soloing of course)
    Apparently it made the fairy heal less

    No one was dying though, but then it became:

    I'm right, you're wrong, and not only are you wrong, you're insulting me by being wrong, so when I'm an asshole to you, I'm being a good guy.

  15. #13655
    Hydra
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    There was a pgl that leeroyed like 6 pods in the final boss room and didn't die despite the sch ignoring him.

  16. #13656
    Hydra
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    After our 12th T9 kill BLM staff finally drops and I lose to the other blm in the static. I'm excited for him but fuck if we will see another one.

  17. #13657
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    It works if the tank/dps isn't dumb pulling packs.

    Had people complain about me being in cleric stance DPSing and not healing too (fairy was fine soloing of course)
    Apparently it made the fairy heal less

    No one was dying though, but then it became:

    quite a bit of the time i do things as a healer there's always one dumb blm or smn who thinks i'm not doing enough healer cause i'm in CS, so they have to spam physick (or cure lol) on the tank.

    like holy shit, there needs to be a sign that says "fairy at work, do not cure"

  18. #13658
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    Modoru D'kkoru
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    I'd like to think I'm at that happy medium where I'm a completely meh DPS, but not mediocre enough to get complained about.

    Whoo.

    I really don't care about optimizing my rotation right now -- doing T6~T8 and just that every week gets really boring after a bit, esp. when no drops.

  19. #13659
    Nidhogg
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    Join a Garuda farm for Nexus. 2 runs later a BLM leaves. Then someone else leaves and before you know it the group is down to 3, all because one DPS left. Annoying as fuck.

  20. #13660
    Hydra
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    Finished my weapon but I seen alot of the above, typically when the (wrong) hour passes.

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