FFXIV Random Complaint Thread: Look forward to it

**Alistaire** · 2014-10-03 22:55

Originally Posted by Edelweiss

I just assumed we were talking .DAT swapping honestly.

Not quite sure what you're trying to get at here, since these (Ruby accessories) are essentially something of a hybrid accessory for a main tank to meet those minimum HP thresholds while still upping damage. Those Fending and Slaying accessories don't really factor in here at all (or maybe they do if you can tank normal Coil 3 in pure DPS accessories right off the bat or something, whatever); but the 110 crafted ones are the issue at hand.

Well, considering how much they held back on even putting out i90 crafted accessories, I doubt we're gonna have i110 crafted anytime soon. So yes, they're the hybrid option for tanks, and will remain the bis for tanks wanting to hybridise. Not by as much, but that shouldn't make them not worth going for.

**Ksandra** · 2014-10-03 23:18

Haven't posted here in forever.

Here goes.

Was in a static group forever ago that couldn't beat turn 6. Eventually left and got lucky finding a group that had the perfect time slot for me. (was after kids go to bed so didn't feel guilty making hubby watch them while I play. They were already on turn 9, so we were able to clear 6-8 every week np. Maxed out on coil gear outside of book. Could not get t9 down for weeks.

Static leader just jumped ship for a new group that beats t9.

I can't say I blame him. I just can't muster the energy with trying to find and get settled into a new group. Think I will take a break for a short while since all my old friends have already quit, too.

**Arthars** · 2014-10-03 23:48

well 2.4 is nearing tho so more groups will rep their static members, make new etc

that seem to be the normal cycle for NA servers:

make static at new content patch > change static at CT patch > break static before new content patch > loop

**Kipling** · 2014-10-03 23:50

Do JP's do it differently? I've been with some people in my group since before FFXIV even launched.

**Grey Jorildyn** · 2014-10-04 00:34

I have been with the same 6 people since launch too with two cycling slots always from FC. But that's not necessarily the norm. Dropping and leaving groups is just kind of a thing that is done in this game. Winning is above all else unless your entire group is super tight-knit in which case winning will come fast or eventually. Heard that happens everywhere now and scheduling issues or frustration always seem to be the culprits.

**Judai** · 2014-10-04 00:54

yea idk, 6 of our group have been together since we beat Turn5 forever ago, the other 2 are reps for people who quit the game.

I would assume both bad/avg jp/na groups might break/re-create statics when they realize their current group can't beat new content.

**Hiroishime** · 2014-10-04 01:00

JPs generally have one general strat that everyone follows (like this one http://suinyaaan.com/bahamut-turn9.html) so it makes it easier to PF if a static is missing members. So even if people have to miss for a week or a month, it is not an issue mostly. I am currently at 16 T9 clears, all has been from random PFs.

**Arthars** · 2014-10-04 01:03

Originally Posted by Uryuu

Do JP's do it differently? I've been with some people in my group since before FFXIV even launched.

I am in JP static on my mule and main, almost always same members since 2.0. However we did rep 1-2 people between here and there cos of people wanting to play other jobs in new patches.

However it takes only a short while to recruit another perma. Even if we dont get someone in time, we can pretty much still PF the remaining and get things done.

for progression, when we lack people, we still do PF, and teach them. In the long run, after 3-4 weeks after progression, pug all pretty much can get things done and you prolly dont need static at that point, except to get loots more reliably. hell, sometimes even pugs clear faster and you get to play which ever job u want in pugs.

our PF does training runs on the get-go in new coils, so our general community pretty much learn together since day 1. not sure if NA even do this at all.

people also come and go in certain patches/near end of patch. but theres never an issue to rep someone at that point cos pugs all are pretty good at that point

Originally Posted by Hiroishime

JPs generally have one general strat that everyone follows (like this one http://suinyaaan.com/bahamut-turn9.html) so it makes it easier to PF if a static is missing members. So even if people have to miss for a week or a month, it is not an issue mostly. I am currently at 16 T9 clears, all has been from random PFs.

yea, pugs static etc etc all learn ONE strat. ONE strat for EVERYTHING, even your primals so everyone knows what to do. NA strat are all over the place tbh.. some are really good but some are really hell of a mess

my 2 mules only start doing coil after like 3-4 weeks of 2nd coil release and pretty much clear turn 6-9 every week since. turn 9 took a while more, maybe 1 month or 2 max before 90% of pugs can clear them in 1-3 attempts.

some peeps on my stream on past week are saying how good our DF was after going like 1 shot titan ex 20-30 times a row. i mean seriously?! thats il90 content yo....

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-10-04 01:12

Originally Posted by Arthars

some peeps on my stream on past week are saying how good our DF was after going like 1 shot titan ex 20-30 times a row. i mean seriously?! thats il90 content yo....

See this isn't even a thing where there are different strats. DF is just the publicly accepted "place you do not go for clears, wipe-practice only" in NA servers. Which sucks!

**Arthars** · 2014-10-04 01:20

i have read so many stuffs about DF in NA servers, people complaining about vote kick, vote abandon abuse etc etc.

to be honest, i have experience none of those shit... DF is supposed to be a very good place to relax/enjoy when your friends arent around. when you plan to click the DF button, you should be prepared to be patient with people you just met.

when you go to college first time, you dont go around punching people in the face do you?

learn to treat people better even ingame too pls!

i was in excalibur in 2.0 period to play with some real good NA friends. when they werent around, i messed around in PF and DF. it only took me 1 week to xfer back

i just cant handle the hostile environment you guys have.

**Kipling** · 2014-10-04 01:29

TBH, I wouldn't use DF to play even if it was like JP servers and everyone knows the strat. I don't enjoy playing with randoms in MMOs, but that's just me. I only play if my friends are playing with me.

**Arthars** · 2014-10-04 01:34

yea, i didnt like DF too but there are just days your friends dont wanna do anything and you want to do everything XD

4 nexus-s will never be done if i waited just for friends...

**Hiroishime** · 2014-10-04 01:35

What i really like about JP servers is that there is always this random learning T5 PFs, newbies trying to learn/clear titan ex, newbies trying to kill Chimera.. and what happens is bunch of veterans with cleared experienced joining them and filled up pretty fast if it was during primetime, it made a very nice, warm and fuzzy community in general.

**Judai** · 2014-10-04 02:20

Originally Posted by Arthars

when you go to college first time, you dont go around punching people in the face do you?

If they show up to a pick up bball game and spill coffee all over your new shoes you do.

One issue here is that ppl join Df and just shit it up. They don't know their job, they don't know anything, they won't listen if someone tries to explain and they just do w/e they want. That's what caused NA Df to be such shit that nobody wants to go into. If all those people who didn't know shit, went into PFs and tried to learn, it might be different but they just jump in df and suck.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-10-04 02:40

"It's just a game" has been uttered dozens of times by a gimp/underperforming/stupid player in DF for forgetting or refusing to do very, very basic things (take off tank stance when not main tank, BLM not using F3 to get to 3 stacks right away, BRD doing heavy shot only, DRGs being DRGs... etc). In my experience.

Pretty much as bad as "it's my 12.99" back in XI.

**Sephiroth** · 2014-10-04 03:54

What happened to that API that was coming "6 months after launch"? Sick of shit being delayed.

**Dammerung** · 2014-10-04 04:24

Originally Posted by Judai

If they show up to a pick up bball game and spill coffee all over your new shoes you do.

One issue here is that ppl join Df and just shit it up. They don't know their job, they don't know anything, they won't listen if someone tries to explain and they just do w/e they want. That's what caused NA Df to be such shit that nobody wants to go into. If all those people who didn't know shit, went into PFs and tried to learn, it might be different but they just jump in df and suck.

Don't forget the best one: shitheads wearing full i55 AF and myth accessories for the wrong job to meet ilvl to enter in addition to being completely clueless about everything.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-10-04 04:32

"It's just a game. Don't be so serious."

Does like 50 DPS.

**Alkimi** · 2014-10-04 04:36

Originally Posted by Arthars

yea, pugs static etc etc all learn ONE strat. ONE strat for EVERYTHING, even your primals so everyone knows what to do. NA strat are all over the place tbh.. some are really good but some are really hell of a mess

Yeah, Garuda Extreme springs to mind. The NA/EU "standard strat" was and still is retarded, especially when i90 was the gear cap, whereas the JP strat was so much easier and far far less prone to tanks and melees getting one-shotted.

**Skai** · 2014-10-04 04:39

Worst thing is you know their DPS is bad and you wanna be nice and offer advice, but you can't bring up DPS without risking getting reported.

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