FFXIV Random Complaint Thread: Look forward to it

**Taint** · 2014-10-22 18:09

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

Things we have seen 0 of, after final count: Casting Ears, Sword, MNK (he at least has Nexus), BLM (has Nexus).

Records:
7 Fending Necks + Aiming Heads + Heaing Hands/Ears/Ring
6 Fending Ears + Aiming Necks + Casting Hands + Healing Wrists

I shoulda been working on Nexus sword, fk.

Yeah no sword for me either.

We also didn't get MNK claws and we have two main MNKs and no SCH book.

It rained healer hands, healer earring, slaying neck, casting neck and wrist. We got tons of accessories on general.

We never saw tank ring, caster earring, BRd hands and legs.

**Amiricle** · 2014-10-22 21:41

They could create massive time sinks with just mini-games. While Golden Saucer is coming, a couple time-sinks I can think of would be to add Tetra Master to the game with cards won from both players & npc's, dropped from dungeons/primals, and/or craftable. Add a pokemon type thingy to use minions in similar to what WoW has going or what they had in FFXI.

**Cutriss** · 2014-10-22 21:45

Originally Posted by Amiricle

They could create massive time sinks with just mini-games. While Golden Saucer is coming, a couple time-sinks I can think of would be to add Tetra Master to the game with cards won from both players & npc's, dropped from dungeons/primals, and/or craftable. Add a pokemon type thingy to use minions in similar to what WoW has going or what they had in FFXI.

You spelled Triple Triad wrong.

**Adajer** · 2014-10-22 22:08

Said it before, majority of the problems with XIV stem from them making the game easy mode for newcomers to mmos and casuals.

**Arthars** · 2014-10-22 22:26

thats no choice on SE side isnt it?

we are no longer in the era where we grew up with vague/REAL MAZE dungeons/hard bosses games

kids these days are playing pretty games with absolutely no gameplay

we are the minority now.... sadly... and to earn money SE have to cater for the majority

**Karbuncle** · 2014-10-22 23:43

Throw a 10 year old gamer today into something like Super Metroid and you'll watch a 10 year old descend into madness and rage. Still I will not say that FFXIV is faceroll easy... at least to the average person, and even the above average can find difficulty in some of the EX/Coils, at least the first few times.

**Adajer** · 2014-10-23 00:05

Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Throw a 10 year old gamer today into something like Super Metroid and you'll watch a 10 year old descend into madness and rage. Still I will not say that FFXIV is faceroll easy... at least to the average person, and even the above average can find difficulty in some of the EX/Coils, at least the first few times.

That is endgame content, which is made to be harder. But it is still all based off the combat/job system that was designed for ease of use. As someone else pointed out earlier, all the endgame content is really learning the fight and when to dodge what mechanic. Which, personally, bores and irks me.

Too much of the game making you play the way they designed for you to play it.

Everyone has XI nostalgia. Looking back on it, it was terrible, grindy, and unbalanced, but it was hella fun.

The perfect game would have been XI remade with ARR graphics and sped up/modernized combat. Nothing will ever provide that FFXI feels that we all want deep down.

**Hioki** · 2014-10-23 00:42

Originally Posted by Adajer

That is endgame content, which is made to be harder. But it is still all based off the combat/job system that was designed for ease of use. As someone else pointed out earlier, all the endgame content is really learning the fight and when to dodge what mechanic. Which, personally, bores and irks me.

Too much of the game making you play the way they designed for you to play it.

I'm not really sure what you want from a game. You've described just about any video game design from the super mario era and beyond.

**Adajer** · 2014-10-23 01:01

Trying to point out the flaw of the need of a "tank" "dps" and "healer" preset. You cant just go all blm for fun, as apposed to the freedom to do so in xi.

But that is probably the main reason I cant get into most modern games for too long before I get bored of the mundane endgame. Weekly and Daily grinds grind my gears.

I really just want real freedom and random stuff that is truly random.

**Arthars** · 2014-10-23 05:19

oh man super metroid...... the puzzles....

**Damane** · 2014-10-23 05:51

Originally Posted by Adajer

Trying to point out the flaw of the need of a "tank" "dps" and "healer" preset. You cant just go all blm for fun, as apposed to the freedom to do so in xi.

But that is probably the main reason I cant get into most modern games for too long before I get bored of the mundane endgame. Weekly and Daily grinds grind my gears.

I really just want real freedom and random stuff that is truly random.

i think the next gen mmo will be sandbox game with a real massiv world where players create content. i have no idea how someone would want to undertake that vision but thats the vision i see

**Detzu** · 2014-10-23 06:14

Originally Posted by Damane

i think the next gen mmo will be sandbox game with a real massiv world where players create content. i have no idea how someone would want to undertake that vision but thats the vision i see

I think it already exists in a certain way.

**dejet** · 2014-10-23 08:08

Originally Posted by Adajer

Trying to point out the flaw of the need of a "tank" "dps" and "healer" preset. You cant just go all blm for fun, as apposed to the freedom to do so in xi.

But that is probably the main reason I cant get into most modern games for too long before I get bored of the mundane endgame. Weekly and Daily grinds grind my gears.

I really just want real freedom and random stuff that is truly random.

Iv said this 100 times but sadly we wont see a open style game like FF11 anytime soon(if ever again) its balance was so bad. I loved the idea of farming sky trigs with 2~3 others then setting up a time to spam gods. Or the weekly namis/limbus. If you want that style game you need to go play the skyrims offline. We will not see another MMO in this style in the name of balance.

**Insanecyclone** · 2014-10-23 08:48

This gilgamesh queue is the worst and same for ultima hm.

**Damane** · 2014-10-23 11:17

Originally Posted by dejet

Iv said this 100 times but sadly we wont see a open style game like FF11 anytime soon(if ever again) its balance was so bad. I loved the idea of farming sky trigs with 2~3 others then setting up a time to spam gods. Or the weekly namis/limbus. If you want that style game you need to go play the skyrims offline. We will not see another MMO in this style in the name of balance.

balance is ok but FF14 is giving up too much freedom for the sake of balance. yes FFxi is unbalanced but not to the point where jobs cant accomplish stuff. In good linkshell with good people balance doesnt play a big role. you go with what people like to play, yes on very very very hard stuff you go for the optimum to get the win. but then again this is a game where you can change jobs on the fly and lvling doesnt take much time so the balance argument is kinda moot. I would agree if it were WoW style with 1char = 1job, but thats not the case here.
However with lockouts and weekly caps xou cant max multiple jobs in quick succession. Get rid of weekly caps and lockouts, fuck on balance, give more freedom on jobroles and gear up multiple jobs!

**dejet** · 2014-10-23 11:44

Originally Posted by Damane

balance is ok but FF14 is giving up too much freedom for the sake of balance. yes FFxi is unbalanced but not to the point where jobs cant accomplish stuff. In good linkshell with good people balance doesnt play a big role. you go with what people like to play, yes on very very very hard stuff you go for the optimum to get the win. but then again this is a game where you can change jobs on the fly and lvling doesnt take much time so the balance argument is kinda moot. I would agree if it were WoW style with 1char = 1job, but thats not the case here.
However with lockouts and weekly caps xou cant max multiple jobs in quick succession. Get rid of weekly caps and lockouts, fuck on balance, give more freedom on jobroles and gear up multiple jobs!

Oh I side with you. I really did love ff11. My linkshell had very few healers to the point that outside sky gods no one was willing to go do anything. So we used our drgs, blus and other hybrid jobs to get by. After I quit for college my xo leader said they use to farm and even clear namis(75 cap still) with DRG healers.

We where very much odd balls on our server, one of the first shells(maybe first on server) willing to use drk as a tank on fafnir/nidhogg.

That kind of versatility was amazing.

Edit3? Also sub job system was great. I mean I can find almost a place for every sub job outside pup.

**Adajer** · 2014-10-23 12:01

Has it been said whether or not you will have had to be so far into the story to unlock rogue? Seems like you would need to be at 2.2(?) or greater in story progression.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-10-23 12:02

It'll be available at 10 like any class; just can't make a new character be Rogue. It'll just be a "oh that was here the whole time dummy" thing.

**Lokus** · 2014-10-23 12:55

You may or may not want to log out in Limsa before patch. The congestition of everyone trying to be WORLDFURST 50NIN is likely to make that zone a pain in the ass.

**Niiro** · 2014-10-23 13:06

You can't adjust the font size for different chat tabs if they're in the same window, only if they're separated into their own window.

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