FFXIV Random Praise Thread: Time to melee RDM

[Kaisha]

Just wish the ARR zones were considered per-region instead of per zone. I need so many allied seals to finish off ARR zones, but did 3.0 areas in no time at all.

Zoom-zoom. Hopefully the 4.0 zones get 2* speed at some point as well.

[Fiye]

I'm hoping they add it in patch 4.1. There's honestly no reason they shouldn't have it now.

Also ffs its hard to get Allied Seals when even ARR S ranks melt in seconds.

Hit 65 on most of my crafting jobs. Still no complaints and praise be to patient touch.

I got a macro that HQs 40/40 recipes at 64 like wat. But I did look at the mats for worsted yarn and holy shit fuck that.

[Fondue]

been busy working but finally got 70 and finished the main story tonight, thoroughly enjoyed watching the cutscenes and talking to npcs this time around

a little sad its over q.q

[Damane]

I got so much Hodor "Hold the door... i mean roof" vibe!!!

[Silenka]

Haahah just did the Lochs S rank for the first time
so many dead people, even worse than KB was I think.

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SE: "With all these QoL changes, I don't think players are going to suffer enough. Let's make sure they can never forget A3S."

[Ratatapa]

Stormblood story was really fun vs heavensward

Now to get mad at pugs

[Yuri-G]

been busy working but finally got 70 and finished the main story tonight, thoroughly enjoyed watching the cutscenes and talking to npcs this time around

a little sad its over q.q

I am sad too. Zenos is one of my favorite villains in the series. I haven't finished the final trial yet (tried this morning, DID NOT GO WELL) but while I'm looking forward to verity and beyond, I'm also a little bittersweet.

[Silenka]

I think SB was more fun than HW because HW was more hostile in general as a story. It was also a war, but there was the oppression of the lower class, the religious zealot aspect which a lot of people think should be wiped from existence, and poncy elves who think they're better than everyone else just because they were born to a certain house (also who no one can take seriously) and yet we had to help these schmucks and everything they did to themselves. Feels much better to help some people who technically didn't really do anything wrong regain their homeland vs. some dudes who put themselves in their position through their own shitty actions.

[Yuri-G]

Let's also acknowledge that Gosetsu > all

[Damane]

I am sad too. Zenos is one of my favorite villains in the series. I haven't finished the final trial yet (tried this morning, DID NOT GO WELL) but while I'm looking forward to verity and beyond, I'm also a little bittersweet.

I agree the villains in this expansion were very good Zenos and that Asian lady with the pipe werent so flat as previous villains.

[Yuri-G]

I agree the villains in this expansion were very good Zenos and that Asian lady with the pipe werent so flat as previous villains.

Absolutely. My thoughts:

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Xenos is a fantastic example of anti-social personality disorder. He wants one thing: To fight. That's it. He's consistent, too - he never wavers. He doesn't care about people, and doesn't enjoy brutalizing his enemies - in fact, he gets bored when they go down easily. His single-mindedness is almost admirable, and more than a bit sad. He's not "mean" so much as he was just born without a conscience, without a soul - evil, but not malevolent. I have met people like that in real life, and it really resonated with me. When you see him right before the Royal Menagerie he says "you'll have to excuse me, this feeling is new to me" - I think that line is really telling. Basically he finally feels fulfilled, complete, having the opportunity to fight an opponent who is truly worthy of battle for the first time in his life.


Yotsuyu, on the other hand, is the exact opposite. Her villainy is based entirely in malevolence. It's a pitiful malevolence, and her story breaks my heart - right up until the point where she starts, y'know, murdering and torturing innocents because she was abused as a teenager. She's basically every school shooter ever except on an absolutely massive scale. And in the end, she is a great example of how vengeance solves nothing - she dies alone, defeated, broken, and it's all her own doing. The abuse that was heaped upon her as a child broke her, and she never recovered. I wanted to feel bad for her, but I couldn't - she became that which she hated, the abuser, the bully - and in doing so she revoked any right to pity, to her own humanity.


And then there's Fordola, who is basically a less entertaining version of Yotsuyu. IDK, I didn't like her nearly as much. She's a fine character and all, but it bothers me that two out of the three main villains had the same "I'm betraying my homeland" trope, although they did it in different ways.

[Ratatapa]

So I had the skip some CS but did we learned what happened to the ala mhigo girl ( with the empire )who lyse brought back

[Yuri-G]

So I had the skip some CS but did we learned what happened to the ala mhigo girl ( with the empire )who lyse brought back

Fordola?


If that's who you mean, I'm not sure - I haven't finished the last trial yet.

[Ratatapa]

Fordola?


If that's who you mean, I'm not sure - I haven't finished the last trial yet.

There's nothing about her there

[Yuri-G]

Ah, then unless someone else chimes in, I think we will probably find out about her in a later patch. They may be done with her, but...

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I feel like the magitek infusion aether-type shit they did to her will be relevant later on, so they may keep her around as they expand upon that point. Maybe.

[Alkar]

So I had the skip some CS but did we learned what happened to the ala mhigo girl ( with the empire )who lyse brought back

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All we know is that she was captured and is probably being questioned. They're keeping her around for future story developments most likely.

[Silenka]

ffs this omega quest lol

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Jessie: we paid Nero a bunch to help us
Cid: fire him
Me: (you should be firing her...)
Yeah solve this on your own, later dudes.
Nero: This is your fault too~
Cid: Oh I didn't know you were even here.
Me: (the shit I put up with)

[Elcura]

I think SB was more fun than HW because HW was more hostile in general as a story. It was also a war, but there was the oppression of the lower class, the religious zealot aspect which a lot of people think should be wiped from existence, and poncy elves who think they're better than everyone else just because they were born to a certain house (also who no one can take seriously) and yet we had to help these schmucks and everything they did to themselves. Feels much better to help some people who technically didn't really do anything wrong regain their homeland vs. some dudes who put themselves in their position through their own shitty actions.

You aren't helping the people who put themselves in a shitty position, you're helping literally everyone else. I dunno why you think all of Ishgard deserved it when it was clear who was actually pulling the strings and manipulating the nation for their own gain.

I think HW was more interesting because it wasn't obvious who the actual enemy was. Sure Nidhogg gonna Nidhogg but there was an element of cooperation and understanding that SB didn't have at all. SB forced it whereas HW made it feel natural (I mean that competition for the Au'Ra people was so forced and cheesy I couldn't stop rolling my eyes). I felt like I earned the trust of dragons, whereas I just happened to gain Doma's trust just because.

HW felt like an adventure going from place to place with some friends, learning about them in cool casual ways before moving on to the next place. SB felt like painting a picture by numbers. You go to a place, see some shit, get your ass kicked then go to another place to do some rote freedom fighting so you can freedom fight elsewhere. The time spent in Doma is just so lackluster, Kugane looks great at night but after that I wasn't impressed by anything else in the area. The only good thing about SB was Zenos, because he was the only fun thing about the story. Oh and the first time you go underwater, but they totally wasted that concept. Underwater is amazing and the first time going to the Tides dungeon is breathtaking. More moments like that would've been appreciated.

[Silenka]

I think HW was more interesting because it wasn't obvious who the actual enemy was. Sure Nidhogg gonna Nidhogg but there was an element of cooperation and understanding that SB didn't have at all. SB forced it whereas HW made it feel natural

I won't totally disagree with you on that. HW did feel more organic, possibly because WoL was not in a position of any power at the beginning of the story and you had to do a lot more to ingratiate yourself. But...
(spoiling this just in case)

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(I mean that competition for the Au'Ra people was so forced and cheesy I couldn't stop rolling my eyes).

While I thought it was kinda weird that they let outsiders participate - and they let you "in" after just a few quests - this tradition, and the entire area, is based on Mongolia and their rites of succession. Like the Chinese idea of "mandate of heaven", those who were strongest in battle were proved deserving of being the ruler by divine right after the previous ruler had fallen. (They eventually just had a council decide though, I guess). So I didn't think it was cheesy at all, it was pretty believable.

I felt like I earned the trust of dragons, whereas I just happened to gain Doma's trust just because.

This was a chain. You already had Yugiri and Gosetsu's trust, which directly led to Hien's trust, which directly led to the trust of both the Xaela and the Domans. Unless you are specifically referring to the Namai portion prior to Hien's involvement, wherein you didn't actually fully gain their trust until you got chopped in the face by the guy oppressing them, after which they collectively decided that if you were in the same position as they are, you can't be all that bad. Not seeing any issues there.

HW felt like an adventure going from place to place with some friends, learning about them in cool casual ways before moving on to the next place. SB felt like painting a picture by numbers. You go to a place, see some shit, get your ass kicked then go to another place to do some rote freedom fighting so you can freedom fight elsewhere. The time spent in Doma is just so lackluster, Kugane looks great at night but after that I wasn't impressed by anything else in the area. The only good thing about SB was Zenos, because he was the only fun thing about the story. Oh and the first time you go underwater, but they totally wasted that concept. Underwater is amazing and the first time going to the Tides dungeon is breathtaking. More moments like that would've been appreciated.

I guess this is just another agree to disagree moment; there are gonna be people who liked HW more and people who liked SB more. For me, it's mainly the aesthetics and NPCs, plus my distaste for Ishgard's root in religious issues (yes, I do blame the elves for placing all their faith in a corrupt theocracy and never thinking to question it), that put SB above HW. But we also have the entire HW story, whereas we only have a part of SB's atm. My biggest complaint about SB I think is the fact that the war felt way too easy to win. I understand that Zenos didn't actually care that much about holding on to the Garlean territories, but imagine if he had - the Alliance would not have won.

[Fiye]

The Azijm Steppes were pretty fantastic. Going into Yanxia the first time and getting shunned because of Gosetsu was a nice plot point.

SB's plot devices were by the numbers sure. But the tale in the far east felt like a chapter ripped out of a Odyssean epic. Travelling to the far east, battling with a deity focused on revely. Rekindling the spirits of pirates. Stoking the passions of countrymen against an empire. Becoming the Kagahn. And eventually retaking Doma by sacrificing the castle itself.

And going back to Gyr Abania to finish what you started felt decent. You had by then already explored half of two zones so it was really just a blitzkrieg towards Ala Mhigo. Hell when you got to The Lochs they really didn't waste any time getting you there. SB didn't have the same wonder as HW but at the same time you're not heading to places where mortals have essentially vanished from.

I have to mention the siege of Ala Mhigo had me a little giddity. Having all the grand companies there. People you've helped out over the last 4 years felt like something out of mass effect.