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  1. #541
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    It's been fairly hit 'n miss with my alt chucking through the levels. The majority are nice, but there's a lot of people who can't follow simple instructions. It's funny at first, but once you hit Brayflox/Qarn it becomes infuriating.

    Admittedly, Endgame is when it becomes the worst.

  2. #542
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    Brayflox pugs are the best, since that's where dungeons start to become "hard". I did a Copperbell the other day on my ARC, won every piece of loot that dropped for dps and got bitched at for it lol. I learned a long time ago not to pass on shit I need for people I don't know in MMOs, aint no super karma game god.

  3. #543
    Falcom is better than SE. Change my mind.
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    Finally getting to try the dungeon changes. 140/300 already. Friggin love this update.

  4. #544
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    The difficulty spike in Aurum Vale was very pleasant. All dungeons prior to that I got through by doing the good-old tank-leader style, giving very quick bullet point tips on bosses. But the malboro takes the cake with its mechanics. Didn't finish, although I felt our party setup wasn't optimal (PLD-me. BRD, DRG, SCH). Their AOEs didn't blow down the fruit fast enough. I'm confident if I was a WAR (only 20) then it would be a none issue, but as I lack AOEs I felt severely limited, and the boss's vine/spikes thing was devastating the drg. The DRG also mentioned his AOEs cost lots of TP ... I persuaded him to do it and not worry about that as it was the adds that was the problem. However, I'm unsure if he did in the end or not as I was busy trying to dps the adds down myself and face the boss away from everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    Brayflox pugs are the best, since that's where dungeons start to become "hard".
    I didn't find Brayflox at all hard, or was the tank retarded and not able to move the last boss appropiately? Between that and dodging fireballs there wasn't much to it lol

  5. #545
    New Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    The difficulty spike in Aurum Vale was very pleasant. All dungeons prior to that I got through by doing the good-old tank-leader style, giving very quick bullet point tips on bosses. But the malboro takes the cake with its mechanics. Didn't finish, although I felt our party setup wasn't optimal (PLD-me. BRD, DRG, SCH). Their AOEs didn't blow down the fruit fast enough. I'm confident if I was a WAR (only 20) then it would be a none issue, but as I lack AOEs I felt severely limited, and the boss's vine/spikes thing was devastating the drg. The DRG also mentioned his AOEs cost lots of TP ... I persuaded him to do it and not worry about that as it was the adds that was the problem. However, I'm unsure if he did in the end or not as I was busy trying to dps the adds down myself and face the boss away from everyone.

    I didn't find Brayflox at all hard, or was the tank retarded and not able to move the last boss appropiately? Between that and dodging fireballs there wasn't much to it lol
    Well I noticed Brayflox mobs/bosses don't hit like pussies anymore, so at the very least it's a wake up call to stop being completely shit .

  6. #546
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    The difficulty spike in Aurum Vale was very pleasant. All dungeons prior to that I got through by doing the good-old tank-leader style, giving very quick bullet point tips on bosses. But the malboro takes the cake with its mechanics. Didn't finish, although I felt our party setup wasn't optimal (PLD-me. BRD, DRG, SCH). Their AOEs didn't blow down the fruit fast enough. I'm confident if I was a WAR (only 20) then it would be a none issue, but as I lack AOEs I felt severely limited, and the boss's vine/spikes thing was devastating the drg. The DRG also mentioned his AOEs cost lots of TP ... I persuaded him to do it and not worry about that as it was the adds that was the problem. However, I'm unsure if he did in the end or not as I was busy trying to dps the adds down myself and face the boss away from everyone.


    An AoE limit break to handle the 2nd wave of adds on final boss is a real benefit (Is BLM the only AoE LB - I dunno, I've only levelled WHM).

  7. #547
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    The AoE LB is "Caster" so usable by Summoner and Black Mage only (and their respective classes).

  8. #548
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    The difficulty spike in Aurum Vale was very pleasant. All dungeons prior to that I got through by doing the good-old tank-leader style, giving very quick bullet point tips on bosses. But the malboro takes the cake with its mechanics. Didn't finish, although I felt our party setup wasn't optimal (PLD-me. BRD, DRG, SCH). Their AOEs didn't blow down the fruit fast enough. I'm confident if I was a WAR (only 20) then it would be a none issue, but as I lack AOEs I felt severely limited, and the boss's vine/spikes thing was devastating the drg. The DRG also mentioned his AOEs cost lots of TP ... I persuaded him to do it and not worry about that as it was the adds that was the problem. However, I'm unsure if he did in the end or not as I was busy trying to dps the adds down myself and face the boss away from everyone.

    I didn't find Brayflox at all hard, or was the tank retarded and not able to move the last boss appropriately? Between that and dodging fireballs there wasn't much to it lol
    As a SCH who has healed Aurum Vale, I can tell you it's not the optimal healer for that dungeon. Very challenging as a Scholar on all of the poison fights. AoE healing is not our strength, and the fairy cannot cleanse any of the stacks, and with DoTs being her weakness, she dies often and becomes more of a liability due to having to re-summon her. The ogre fight is also challenging as he doesn't have "training wheels" for his abilities (no red lines showing you where his ability is targeted and it's range, so you actually have to pay attention to where he is facing).

    Brayflox is more of a gear check. Sunken Temple of of Qarn was probably the most challenging as it required all party members to cooperate and do multiple things simultaneously in order to execute complex strategies. Ex: killing bees before final sting while also cleansing doom, killing stone heads on exact locations, dancing around lasers and removing their source while maintaining DPS on boss.

  9. #549
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuitton View Post
    As a SCH who has healed Aurum Vale, I can tell you it's not the optimal healer for that dungeon. Very challenging as a Scholar on all of the poison fights. AoE healing is not our strength, and the fairy cannot cleanse any of the stacks, and with DoTs being her weakness, she dies often and becomes more of a liability due to having to re-summon her. The ogre fight is also challenging as he doesn't have "training wheels" for his abilities (no red lines showing you where his ability is targeted and it's range, so you actually have to pay attention to where he is facing).

    Brayflox is more of a gear check. Sunken Temple of of Qarn was probably the most challenging as it required all party members to cooperate and do multiple things simultaneously in order to execute complex strategies. Ex: killing bees before final sting while also cleansing doom, killing stone heads on exact locations, dancing around lasers and removing their source while maintaining DPS on boss.
    Ah I see. The SCH did actually announce he's not the best choice there, but I was feeling optimistic and the group otherwise were fine (I screwed up a few pulls personally) and pleasant.

    I loved the fact the Ogre had no red. In makes the mob seem that much more dangerous, and I wished they used it sparingly (seeing it used on a level 3 mob outside town was depressing)!

    Not done Sunken Temple yet, but I do agree in Brayflox I felt the increased damage and I was half wondering if I just sucked or what...

    The Chimera (not the relic one) is similar in that there's no red for his 2 ultimate moves and running in/out to avoid his attacks was a lot more fun and dramatic as you don't really know the safe area (until you're accustomed to it). However that fight only took 1 wipe as during the 2nd attempt I basically shouted in/out for people and we all ran in terror. I thought it increased the fun/danger factor.


    EDIT: Beat the malboro last night. Landed in a fresh party with BRD BRD SCH and me (PLD). Shit died so fast it was over in less than 40 mins. What's the point of melee lol

  10. #550
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    Well I noticed Brayflox mobs/bosses don't hit like pussies anymore, so at the very least it's a wake up call to stop being completely shit .
    Quote Originally Posted by Vuitton View Post
    Brayflox is more of a gear check. Sunken Temple of of Qarn was probably the most challenging as it required all party members to cooperate and do multiple things simultaneously in order to execute complex strategies. Ex: killing bees before final sting while also cleansing doom, killing stone heads on exact locations, dancing around lasers and removing their source while maintaining DPS on boss.
    Brayflox is a wakeup call for the tank since they can't just stand there and get hit in the face on Aiatar. They actually have to pay attention to something other than their rotation. If you get a tank that sucks in Brayflox you're pretty much screwed despite how good the rest of the party is.

    Sunken Temple of of Qarn is the wake up call for everyone since you have to do a little dance on every boss. My first Qarn run I had a party where everyone was able to Dance the Dance perfectly and it was awesome, a thing of beauty to behold. That run was one of my favorite moments in the game. Subsequent runs almost always had 1 or 2 people that couldn't and ended up eating Final Sting's and lasers to the face and it got quite annoying.

  11. #551
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    Well I noticed Brayflox mobs/bosses don't hit like pussies anymore, so at the very least it's a wake up call to stop being completely shit .
    Quote Originally Posted by Vuitton View Post
    Brayflox is more of a gear check. Sunken Temple of of Qarn was probably the most challenging as it required all party members to cooperate and do multiple things simultaneously in order to execute complex strategies. Ex: killing bees before final sting while also cleansing doom, killing stone heads on exact locations, dancing around lasers and removing their source while maintaining DPS on boss.
    Brayflox is a wakeup call for the tank since they can't just stand there and get hit in the face on Aiatar. They actually have to pay attention to something other than their rotation. If you get a tank that sucks in Brayflox you're pretty much screwed despite how good the rest of the party is.

    Sunken Temple of of Qarn is the wake up call for everyone since you have to do a little dance on every boss. My first Qarn run I had a party where everyone was able to Dance the Dance perfectly and it was awesome, a thing of beauty to behold. That run was one of my favorite moments in the game. Subsequent runs almost always had 1 or 2 people that couldn't and ended up eating Final Sting's and lasers to the face and it got quite annoying.

  12. #552
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaun View Post
    Sunken Temple of of Qarn is the wake up call for everyone since you have to do a little dance on every boss. My first Qarn run I had a party where everyone was able to Dance the Dance perfectly and it was awesome, a thing of beauty to behold. That run was one of my favorite moments in the game. Subsequent runs almost always had 1 or 2 people that couldn't and ended up eating Final Sting's and lasers to the face and it got quite annoying.
    This is why I love Sunken Temple/Ultima 2. People bitch about the lasers but I find them fun. Kindas remind me of the final boss in Ys Seven since one of his phases was laser hell as well.

  13. #553
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    Just another DF Amdapor. PLD, BRD, SCH (me) all looked good. DRG was kind of... full AF, i43 weapon, accessories outdated but at least not weird shit like INT. Said it was his first time and I was preparing for pain.

    To my surprise he performed quite well, again considering he'd never been here before. Wiped once to Demon Wall due to stuff (and on first go he got hit by every lane and fell from Repel). On 2nd go he dodged everything. Last boss he didn't get hit by catastrophe, actually dodged tail swipe on the one occasion it would have hit him, and both purples that were on him he dodged flawlessly.

    Hell, icing on the cake he got like 5 gear upgrades from that one run. Faith in DF: +1.

  14. #554
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    Helped an FC friend with her first run in AK myself. She was a WAR in AF with a level 45 weapon. She was nothing short of amazing. Held hate on everything, even against full DL peeps and myself spamming Stone II. I told her to run behind Psycheflayer to avoid Void Thunder and she did exactly that. She only got hit once by Demon Wall and held the adds, and she didn't die to Catastophe.

    The DL BLM kept dying to Void Fira though. He was wearing the Halloween costume and that was enough to get him 1-shot, even with Stoneskin up.

  15. #555
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    Dont usually DF but needed to for 1 slot on Stone Vigil. First time for all of us but the person we picked up had ran it twice before but was never able to get past the last boss. Just a really cool dungeon the 2nd boss fight was awesome. We make our way to the final boss and proceed to do perfect until his last flight phase kicks in and we wipe not knowing what was coming. After a few more wipes due to our healer not prioritizing dodging over healing we started to get low on time. Our last chance through we ended up running it flawlessly and I ended up getting Ancient sword to drop which is by far the baddest looking sword up to this point.

    Kudos to the guy we picked up who hung in there and was extremely helpful with what little he knew about the dungeon and not getting frustrated because our healer was derping on the last boss phase.

  16. #556
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Playing with friends and having fun with them

    Was bitching for fun on bg Hyperion ls, and went to Titan with seravi for my curtana

    Fight starts well break heart np, earthen fury happens all is fine exept that I forget that we have no ledges anymore and simply run down and die.

    Wipe restart and everyone have a good laugh at me ( ) and 2nd run went smoother even tho whm died to landslide.

    Was fun

  17. #557
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    Feels good to beat Titan huh.

  18. #558
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybar View Post
    Feels good to beat Titan huh.
    Even though it's the 30th time it does ya

  19. #559
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Fight starts well break heart np, earthen fury happens all is fine exept that I forget that we have no ledges anymore and simply run down and die.
    I feel that this needs to be reiterated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbyprime View Post
    I feel that this needs to be reiterated.
    Lol ass

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