Relic Reborn information

**Elcura** · 2013-09-16 06:57

Originally Posted by Churchill

obviously dl means you are slower and can no longer dodge as fast

ty for your input

Go be retarded somewhere else please, thanks.

Because you know I'm not wrong.

Originally Posted by Pooky

Tell that to the AF onry healer's I've seen who run in there with 2700 hp and die to stomps in phase 1.

What do you want me to say? Your healers suck ass, but you know exactly what I'm talking about.

**Churchill** · 2013-09-16 07:22

The only thing I know is that you correlated things together that are irrelevant and made an obvious statement about being dead equaling zero DPS. At the same time you are completely wrong because the fight at the very least requires people to have a minimum amount of HP so gear kinda matters yea?

**CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon** · 2013-09-16 07:56

Gear wouldin't matter as much(though you still need ilv60 at least) if you ran with 3 healers. It'd still be kinda close if they weren't on top of it but with whm whm sch you could get by.

Personally if you are wearing any AF in there just gtfo now.

**Alkar** · 2013-09-16 08:11

I'm pretty sure he meant that you don't need melded stuff for Titan but Darklight is more than enough to survive (at least for healers). Obviously there's no place for AF in there but I don't think that was even being argued.

**Wulfgang** · 2013-09-16 09:32

Ran Titan for 6 hours+ yesterday in PUGs; had some good groups, some okay ones, and some terrible ones. Even with the good groups, you inevitably end up with people who cannot dodge the plumes in Phase 3 and it's a lost cause. I just don't understand it; I seriously take a plume once every 10-15 runs. The last plume I took was a Gaol > broken out as plumes were underneath me. Trying not to be a pain to the FC since most people have gone through this (I work a lot, was generally behind a bit), but it's getting pretty frustrating.

**CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon** · 2013-09-16 09:37

Originally Posted by Wulfgang

Ran Titan for 6 hours+ yesterday in PUGs; had some good groups, some okay ones, and some terrible ones. Even with the good groups, you inevitably end up with people who cannot dodge the plumes in Phase 3 and it's a lost cause. I just don't understand it; I seriously take a plume once every 10-15 runs. The last plume I took was a Gaol > broken out as plumes were underneath me. Trying not to be a pain to the FC since most people have gone through this (I work a lot, was generally behind a bit), but it's getting pretty frustrating.

I don't get it either. Aside from heart phase, it's a survival fight. I have the patterns on my 2nd monitor so I can always see what's coming next if I get lost. I always start running right before plumes pop and never get hit. It's dumb it's more about preparation than reaction but whatever. I wish they would put aoe rings on the bombs though. With all the effects going off I can hardly see if I'm going to take damage or not and it affects the dps.

**Gokulo** · 2013-09-16 09:51

Don't want to make a new topic - what's the best parser according to our resident elitists?

**BerenTebogo** · 2013-09-16 11:26

How are people doing as WAR tank on titan? I've been doing it on PLD since it's better, but my relic quest is on WAR.
Got about 6600-6700 HP on WAR at the moment. Haven't respeced to VIT yet.

**Elcura** · 2013-09-16 11:26

Originally Posted by Churchill

The only thing I know is that you correlated things together that are irrelevant and made an obvious statement about being dead equaling zero DPS. At the same time you are completely wrong because the fight at the very least requires people to have a minimum amount of HP so gear kinda matters yea?

I said it doesn't matter AS MUCH as knowing what to do. Which is true. Go away.

**Kiarax** · 2013-09-16 13:04

Originally Posted by SathFenrir

How are people doing as WAR tank on titan? I've been doing it on PLD since it's better, but my relic quest is on WAR.
Got about 6600-6700 HP on WAR at the moment. Haven't respeced to VIT yet.

Just keep 5 Wrath handy to Inner Beast the busters as fast as possible (and try and keep Maim/Storm's Eye up for bigger IBs). Foresight doesn't help (it's magic damage, though it would knock off a bit of the auto attack damage at least) but preempting it with Convalescence/Thrill of Battle helps too. Dunno what healers you're running with but a SCH preshielding the buster makes for a great safety net too, but generally Inner Beast alone should be enough to take it safely. Hold on to Infuriate for a second emergency IB. I tanked it at 7006 HP but if you're confident enough I'd say you're fine where you are.

**SamanosukeShiva** · 2013-09-16 13:12

What gear does is it opens you up to more strategic options, and fuck ups are not as punishing. If you and 7 other people wanna go in Titan with full AF/greens, can you possibly kill Titan? Yes you can. But can you and 7 other people dodge and not get hit by a single thing? No? {That's too bad.}

**Ratatapa** · 2013-09-16 21:40

Originally Posted by Wulfgang

Ran Titan for 6 hours+ yesterday in PUGs; had some good groups, some okay ones, and some terrible ones. Even with the good groups, you inevitably end up with people who cannot dodge the plumes in Phase 3 and it's a lost cause. I just don't understand it; I seriously take a plume once every 10-15 runs. The last plume I took was a Gaol > broken out as plumes were underneath me. Trying not to be a pain to the FC since most people have gone through this (I work a lot, was generally behind a bit), but it's getting pretty frustrating.

Dude that fucking white Mage

**Arthars** · 2013-09-17 05:33

warrior tank is a pain in the ass.

Your main concern is mountain buster as mentioned above your only bet to stay alive is to inner beast and hope some WHM dodge in time and remember to cure u

all titan WS orders r fixed, any experienced player should have it in their head already but i can totally feel ur pain as a war on relic quest

however u can also go as DPS war, altho not as high damage, but its do-able

if your war DPSing and still able to get heart down, then your group can handle with u being the sub-par dps, the rest is up to everyone dodging phase 2

gear doesnt matter but pls for the love of god, get 3500 HP at least for ur whms so u can have more room for fucked ups

anything below 3k HP on curer just gtfo really, DL or not

**Alkar** · 2013-09-17 05:35

Or have a SCH in the party, Lustrate can be used while moving and is very good on WARs.

**shepardG** · 2013-09-17 07:50

Lustrate burst OP

**Mrbeansman** · 2013-09-17 10:19

Spoiler: show

This good for titan?

**Fievel** · 2013-09-17 10:20

It's good enough, yes.

There are some obvious improvements to be made, and I'd push for some more VIT, but as long as you dodge it's workable.

**Mrbeansman** · 2013-09-17 10:38

Any melded accessory with 7-8 mind and vit will trump darklight right.

**Fievel** · 2013-09-17 11:40

Generally speaking, yeah.

It sucks to lose some mind/pie, like with turquoise ring+1 it's already at its mnd cap of 6 so you lose a few when comparing to DL. The thing is though that this game has gear checks like any other, but for the most part the gear checks in xiv revolve around VIT. Pretty much everybody needs some VIT for more hp in Titan/coil.

We have a whm in DM that made a set that will allow him to eat one bomb or two weight of the land and still survive. This is in no way needed but that's the type of thing that will give you some wiggle room in the fight, which for healers can be very important.

**Niiro** · 2013-09-17 11:59

Originally Posted by Coolbeans

Any melded accessory with 7-8 mind and vit will trump darklight right.

The only pieces capable of this require rose gold ingots afaik.

For example to update your rings to such a point you would need Astral rings, which need 2 ingots -each- (yikes).

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