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    How inconvenient, also stupid.

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    I was under the impression that Sic is simply an attack command and the behaviour mode you're looking for is "Guard".

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    Sic is a bit of a hybrid command. It decides your pets immediate target and it's the AI mode to attack anything that you have hate on.
    Guard and Steady are pretty much just AI settings, the former requiring you to actually be attacked before they act.

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    I felt super clever the first time I used Sic and figured out you can use pets to SMN pull XI style.

    Well, not quite XI style, can't avoid links just aggro from nearby enemies.

    Sic also doesn't have a range limitation iirc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    I felt super clever the first time I used Sic and figured out you can use pets to SMN pull XI style.

    Well, not quite XI style, can't avoid links just aggro from nearby enemies.

    Sic also doesn't have a range limitation iirc.
    You can't avoid aggro with pets. If an enemy sees/hears your pet it automatically starts coming after you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    You can't avoid aggro with pets. If an enemy sees/hears your pet it automatically starts coming after you.
    What? I don't think I've -ever- seen my pet get sight/sound aggro.

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    I did Sastasha with some nubs while I was on ARC and they skipped "The Hole" or whatever area is blocked by a pair of pirates. After the party left, I tried to solo distract them with Topaz Carbuncle, grab the key, open the door, and grab the chest.

    Every time I Sic'd Carbuncle on the pirates, as soon as Carbuncle crossed into their sight-range, they immediately aggro'd me. I pulled it off, but only by making Carbuncle hit them to take the hate I inevitably had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    I did Sastasha with some nubs while I was on ARC and they skipped "The Hole" or whatever area is blocked by a pair of pirates. After the party left, I tried to solo distract them with Topaz Carbuncle, grab the key, open the door, and grab the chest.

    Every time I Sic'd Carbuncle on the pirates, as soon as Carbuncle crossed into their sight-range, they immediately aggro'd me. I pulled it off, but only by making Carbuncle hit them to take the hate I inevitably had.
    This is how it always works. If your pet aggros, they attack the owner.

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    I can't imagine how anyone would experience anything else~ D:

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    I've sent my pet into groups of hostile enemies and heeled it back with just the 1 a number of times.

    Dungeon mobs might work differently I guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    What? I don't think I've -ever- seen my pet get sight/sound aggro.
    Send your pet towards a mob that aggroes and see what happens. If the monster aggroes by sight and you send the pet from its back it'll never try to kill you but if you send the pet making sure it's seen you'll see that the monster starts coming after you (before the pet hits and grabs its attention). Try the same with sound aggro mobs, as soon as your pet gets close you'll get aggro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    This is how it always works. If your pet aggros, they attack the owner.
    I've reported this as a bug, they replied it works as intended :/ Makes no sense tome, but oh well.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...16#post1217416

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    Even if it wasn't intended, you really think they would fix it and let Titan be a free sac pull for any dungeon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Even if it wasn't intended, you really think they would fix it and let Titan be a free sac pull for any dungeon?
    Well, that's one of the reasons you bother bringing a tank along. And pet jobs need their niche in this game. So ya, I wouldn't mind =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Pretty sure it's on by default for KB+M (aka not Cross Hotbar), at least I haven't found a way to turn it off other than rightclicking in HUD Layout. Dunno if it's different for Cross

    Edit: Char config > Hotbar settings > Cross > Use pet hotbar
    That's Cross Hotbar from game pad.
    I am trying to get the Pet Hotbar out, yet I failed to do so
    I'm such a noob ; ;
    If anyone can help, much appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassiraa View Post
    It doesn't trigger GCD though. It should't take more than half of a second to hit macro, click ground, and cast.
    This is the same to BRD/ archer Flame Arrow.
    Click button, move the ground marking, click enter to make it happen.

    This is definitely takes more than 3 sec to complete the whole process, coz when I have my macro running, each gap between GCD moves I had 2.65s. I tried to place it manually in between macro line, and always get interrupted from next line in...
    (Well, probably I'm too slow on this ;

    I have been healing tank and close range melee with myself and pet standing on the side of boss. Where boss does not have AOE.

    At lvl 36 atm, yet to come across with AOE dmg boss... Finger x , I'll find a better way to suit my playing style lol

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    Thinking of levelling ACN, but kind of concerned about pet usage. I've never been very good at controlling pets or minion in most MMOs, but I like the Arcanist's playstyle so far.

    Can I get by with the automatic pet control? Or will I need to control it manually at some point? Is it a matter of a little bit of efficiency sacrificed, or will I be completely gimped if I do not control the pet/s?

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    Tell DPS pets to Obey once after summoning and they'll only spam their basic attack (everything else is lower potency or something you don't want them to do automatically) which is all you'll need 90% of the time.

    If you dabble in SCH you'll want to do some manually placing but fairy can generally heal fine on her own.

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    So what is the auto-action AI for Eos and Selene?

    I'm presuming Steady is "do nothing" and Sic is "use everything as cooldowns are up," but what about Obey and Guard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    So what is the auto-action AI for Eos and Selene?

    I'm presuming Steady is "do nothing" and Sic is "use everything as cooldowns are up," but what about Obey and Guard?
    Sic: do whatever you want;
    Obey: Eos uses Embrace and Whispering Dawn; Selene uses Embrace and Fey Glow. The rest is up to you.
    Guard and Steady do the same thing for fairies because they do not engage in combat. They will still heal no matter what.

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