The Arcanist Thread.

[Niiro]

Further stuff I was looking at, manually calculating pet DPS (something we've only used a parser for in the past).

Garuda landed 36 attacks over 120 seconds or 0.3 attacks/sec (Wind Blade has a cast of 3s plus the minor delay between attacks, 3.33 secs/attack makes sense).

With my mediocre gear and Garuda book (63 DMG 382 attack potency) her average wind blade damage was 160 (low 152 high 169).

0.3 attacks/sec and 160 damage/attack gives her a real DPS of 48 (not counting crits). FFXIVapp parser gives a DPS of 49 (which includes the ~5% crit rate, having only +14 crit it's expected to be very near the base rate) so this checks out as far as I'm concerned.

Bio, Bio 2, and Miasma:
Bio avg 77/tic
Bio2 avg 67/tic
Miasma avg 67/tic (didn't bother with initial damage, just looking at DoT)

Total 211 dmg/tic

1 tic being 3s gives us 211/3 = 70 DPS for all 3 spells combined, crits not accounted for.

Ruin:
Low 145 High 160
Avg 152

Assuming 2.5 secs per cast (just to be on the safe side) we'd get a DPS of 60 not counting crits.

I parsed Ruin spam with AHK hitting ruin every 2.5s and came out with a DPS of 59, I noticed the timing didn't always sync up and a cast would be skipped every now and then despite my spell speed being 2.38 and the script hitting the button every 2.5, so lag played a part in lowering it to some degree.

So, in a vacuum, not counting crits, with my mediocre gear, we have:
Garuda: 48 DPS
Bio+Bio2+Miasma: 70 DPS
Ruin spam: 60 DPS

I don't feel like doing much more on this atm but things that are most obviously missing are bonuses from Raging Strikes, Fester damage, Shadow Flare damage (going to be more difficult because of the massive crit rate oddity) and accounting for bonus pet damage from regular use of Rouse and Spur (there's a really simple way to do this I'm sure but I'm not that great with the maths).

The biggest factors that would lower these numbers would obviously be human error in keeping up DoTs with staggered durations and optimal use of Aertherflow stacks between Fester and Energy Drain.



Edit: idk what kinda wonky stuff XIVapp parser does when trying to measure DoTs but it's very weird. I just happened to take a look at it now (didn't use it before because I knew it couldn't be accurate).

It overvalues Bio to 100/tic, undervalues Bio 2 to 53/tic, and after recording an initial damage from Miasma at 40 values the DoT at........9/tic.

[Lokus]

So quick question, but I keep seeing people mention that dot clipping is bad and you lose out on dot dps by refreshing the spells but is it really that much of an issue in XIV? Aside from the fact that you could have used the GCD to cast Ruin I/II instead of refreshing the dot, I don't see the big issue since you're not losing any ticks at all considering how dots work in this game.

[Kiarax]

Wasting a GCD is wasting potential damage and MP. It's really not that big a deal though.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Found the not-so-hidden secret to why Ifrit-Egi sucks ass.

Damage per hit tested on lv1 training dummy at Whitebrim, (naked) 263 INT, Ifrit's Codex, 0 points allotted to INT (I'm SCH main)

Ifrit
36-39 autoattack
72-79 Burning Strike

Garuda
103-112 Wind Blade

@360 INT

Ifrit
52-57 autoattack
100-110 Burning Strike

Garuda
148-160 Wind Blade

Doesn't look so bad for Ifrit right? Compare best to best and Ifrit is doing 167 per round to Garuda's 160. Here's the problem: Burning Strike is not 3s cooldown. It is 4s.

You can spam that button as much as you want, but Ifrit isn't going to use BS until 1s after it's fully recovered from CD. So the longer the fight drags on, the worse Ifrit does. Because oh yeah Wind Blade just goes and goes nonstop.

Titan-Egi also has the same "secretly 4s CD" delay bullshit. It's a problem that exists with all of his and Ifrit's moves.

[Alkar]

What I don't get is how Ifrit's Burning Strike is doing less than Garuda's Wind Blade. Unless they gave him weaker stats on purpose he should be doing more with a 120 potency on that thing (compared to Garuda's 90).

[Niiro]

Ifrit auto-attacks, Garuda doesn't.

If his special did the same or more damage than Garuda's it would be like if a melee's WSs did the same or more damage of a BLM's Fire on top of auto-attacking.

If Ifrit (and Titan) didn't have the strange delay Ser pointed out Ifrit would probably be ahead of Garuda but by a reasonable, but not major, amount. Which is how it should have worked.

[Alkar]

Ifrit auto-attacks, Garuda doesn't.

If his special did the same or more damage than Garuda's it would be like if a melee's WSs did the same or more damage of a BLM's Fire on top of auto-attacking.

If Ifrit (and Titan) didn't have the strange delay Ser pointed out Ifrit would probably be ahead of Garuda but by a reasonable, but not major, amount. Which is how it should have worked.

I'm aware that Ifrit auto-attacks but he's also near the mobs all the time thus being in AoE range. It's quite silly to make him this weak when he doesn't even have the range advantage.

[Niiro]

I think you're misunderstanding me, I'm saying he should do more damage.

Just that if burning strike did the same or more damage than wind blade it would be unbalanced in the other direction.

[Pepinot]

Titan-Egi also has the same "secretly 4s CD" delay bullshit. It's a problem that exists with all of his and Ifrit's moves.

Wow. Many thanks for discovering this. m(_ _)m

[Ratatapa]

Fastest Would be To tele to Aleport and Find a Fate Group to grind with

huh uh

[Trocian]

An issue wherein players were unable to use their pet’s actions while casting a spell.

From the hotfix patchnotes. Along with the debuff-change, this could turn out to be a good day.

[Alkar]

Wow, that's amazing. Although I highly doubt that was considered an "issue" until players started complaining but I'll take it.

[Ratatapa]

I confirm if I do a spell Ican make my pet use one instead of waiting after

and Raise weakened glitch is gone

[MrSamuels]

Can pet spells now be macro'd into others, for example Physick and Embrace macro? At work and can't test but hype as fuck about these pet changes.

[Ratatapa]

No still cannot macro any pet thingy

[Ratatapa]

Lol just called a Moron from one of my random LS'es cuz I wanted /pet macros

Thye said if yo uwant a macro to become even more lazier you need to quit the game this game is too easy why make it easier?

It's called productivity but ok

[MrSamuels]

Ah well this will still make the mouse macro stronger as the pet was locking out every other physick cast due to not being able to do an ability the same time you were. So effectively scholars just gained a 500-600 heal every other cast if this is what you were doing before.

[Tyche]

Can anyone tell me how I filter so that I'm able to cycle target egis? Like, If I'm running a dungeon with, let's say, 3 SMN, is there an easy way to target each of them quickly that doesn't involve a mouse? I played with all the cycle targeting settings and got nowhere.

[Raldo]

I may be overlooking something, but why would you want to do that? Are you healing them, or?

I've never messed with targetting, so I can't actually answer your question. Just curious.

[Tyche]

Yeah, was going to run 3x SMN and 1x WHM through WP. I use a brobox controller on PC, but I can only target the egi's with a mouse.