ARR Press Reviews

**Kononeko** · 2013-09-26 06:58

Polygon's review 9/10 http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/20/475...-reborn-review

"One of the biggest surprises this year."

If we are looking for box quotes.

**Shadowrunner** · 2013-09-26 08:22

Originally Posted by Hyan

.... :/

I see what he's going for here. Let's say I have a friend (I do) on another server. There is no neatly organized way for me to actually play with them without either switching servers or leaving a spot open in my dungeon and praying that they happen to fill that spot, out of the possible hundreds of other people doing the same thing.

If they introduced a way to form a party from say, your friends list, and allow your friends list to extend cross-realm somehow, that'd be a pretty friggin cool feature.

EDIT: Or am i wrong? Can you make cross-server parties for queues? Can you even add people to your friends list cross-realm?

**Alkar** · 2013-09-26 08:25

Originally Posted by Shadowrunner

I see what he's going for here. Let's say I have a friend (I do) on another server. There is no neatly organized way for me to actually play with them without either switching servers or leaving a spot open in my dungeon and praying that they happen to fill that spot, out of the possible hundreds of other people doing the same thing.

If they introduced a way to form a party from say, your friends list, and allow your friends list to extend cross-realm somehow, that'd be a pretty friggin cool feature.

EDIT: Or am i wrong? Can you make cross-server parties for queues? Can you even add people to your friends list cross-realm?

You can't but you can play with people from other servers so that quote is wrong.

**AnghellicKarma** · 2013-09-26 09:01

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**Hellfury** · 2013-09-27 01:09

Ars Technica

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/0...-be-an-mmorpg/

"Revamp is unapologetic about ignoring accessibility trends, and it's better for it."

**Siatdiat** · 2013-09-27 01:28

Some of these reviews are so terrible that I wonder if all of these reviewers even played for more than 30 minutes.

**Lucavi** · 2013-09-27 07:58

Isn't that the same with every review of every game? Whether a reviewer claims to have finished the game or not, its always suspect.

**Meresgi** · 2013-09-27 09:08

Originally Posted by Lucavi

Isn't that the same with every review of every game? Whether a reviewer claims to have finished the game or not, its always suspect.

Pretty much, and MMO reviews are even worse just due to the nature. I mean yeah if a MMO turns you away in 30mins it's probably not gonna work out, but no one who does these reviews ever commits more then 10 lvls or so to a game.

Also who drew your avatar/sig Lucavi? O:

**Lucavi** · 2013-09-27 10:01

Whitechocobo, aka. Tisi. She's good, yo.

**AnghellicKarma** · 2013-09-30 20:05

JustPushStart:
http://www.justpushstart.com/2013/09...rn-ps3-review/

8.5/10

**ronin sparthos** · 2013-09-30 20:31

7/10 is a fair grade for FFXIV and I have no idea where 9s and 9.5s are coming from. Clearly people who didn't play the game more than a couple days at best.

**Spira** · 2013-09-30 20:37

clearly other people who review the game will have the same opinions as you and rank within the same score range.

do you even get the point of having different reviews?

**ronin sparthos** · 2013-09-30 20:51

Originally Posted by Spira

clearly other people who review the game will have the same opinions as you and rank within the same score range.

do you even get the point of having different reviews?

People are free to grade ARR and I'm free to think their review is bullshit.

If someone thinks FFXIV: ARR is a 9-9.5 (Forbes, Gamesbeat) then yeah, I'm going to be skeptical of their review. While Yoshida and co. salvaging one of the worst MMO launches in history is noteworthy ranking a game like this that totes the status quo at every turn near perfection is ludicrous. Games that change the industry and become household names get to be 9s and 9.5s. Average games with redeeming qualities get to be 7s and 8s.

**Spira** · 2013-09-30 21:06

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

People are free to grade ARR and I'm free to think their review is bullshit.

If someone thinks FFXIV: ARR is a 9-9.5 (Forbes, Gamesbeat) then yeah, I'm going to be skeptical of their review. While Yoshida and co. salvaging one of the worst MMO launches in history is noteworthy ranking a game like this that totes the status quo at every turn near perfection is ludicrous. Games that change the industry and become household names get to be 9s and 9.5s. Average games with redeeming qualities get to be 7s and 8s.

so you don't get the point. noted.

**Don Katsu** · 2013-09-30 21:12

Gamespot's review is inconsistent with their score. But they are notorious for giving mixed or average reviews, only 8 sites gave The Last of Us a score of 8 or lower and Gamespot was one of them.

Then again these gaming sites do it for attention. Why go look at Gamespot's review if their score is a 8 or 9 like everyone else?

**ronin sparthos** · 2013-09-30 21:26

Originally Posted by Spira

so you don't get the point. noted.

In no universe is FFXIV: ARR currently a 9.0 or a 9.5. Not as an MMO. Not as an offline RPG. That much is clear. Reviewers are free to grade games as they see fit using their own metrics. I simply believe such a score is outrageous.

2cents etc.

**Siatdiat** · 2013-10-01 00:58

There is no way in hell FF14 is a 9 really. This score across so many sites has to be somehow paying homage to the fact that it was such a turn around from the original 1.0 release. As far as being a game changer, it just isn't. 7-8 is much more accurate considering that things as basic as the UI are horrible and are only rated as good in comparison to the original.

**Lucavi** · 2013-10-01 01:01

For someone who leveled to 30, either with little knowledge of MMOs or a passing knowledge of WoW and others, it very well might be a 9. For those who have spent lots of time with lots of MMOs, including SE's previous MMO (and thus, have experience with the inner workings of their bullshit), this is no way a 9. It comes down to the level of experience one has with SE. The longer you've played SE products, an the more you've played other MMOs in the field, the more attuned you are to what this game currently lacks that it should have had from the beginning (chat filters, blist button, inventory sorting, STICKY TARGETING, ect.): those who have not this kind of experience, or just never played enough of the game to truly have the lack of certain things grate on them for hours on end, probably wont shoot the game down in flames.

**shepardG** · 2013-10-01 01:02

OPINION FIGHT!

**Hyan** · 2013-10-01 01:39

Originally Posted by Lucavi

The longer you've played SE products, an the more you've played other MMOs in the field, the more attuned you are to what this game currently lacks that it should have had from the beginning (chat filters, blist button, inventory sorting, STICKY TARGETING, ect.)

No MMO should ever be a 9-10 in the beginning then. There is no MMORPG out there that had everything it "should have had" in launch. You're essentially competing against games developing on top of themselves, adding features over-time. You have 3-5 years to create from the scratch a rival for games that have been constantly "in development" for 5-15 years.

Well, that's alright with me really. But I think it's a bit silly we should omit 9 and 10 from the review scale when it comes to new MMO's. Granted like you said it's a fact for long-time MMO gamers. Yes, they should realize that they are looking at the game through completely different glasses than the common folk.

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