Titan Fight

**Sephiroth** · 2013-09-30 03:20

I hate this fight. I always end up in a group where one or two people don't know how to dodge, and it's usually a healer (slim pickings for these on my server too). And there's always one in the group who doesn't know how to DPS. One group last night I was one of three BLMs, one guy did under 1/3 my DPS on the heart despite me being in the rock at the start of the fight. I don't even know how that's possible (he was alive). His DPS for the first phase was terrible too.

A tip for all DPSs: Ensure all your cooldowns are ready and (if you're a DD mage your MP is full) in time for heart. Don't pop the cooldowns until after the first person is targeted with a rock in case it is you so that you don't waste them. I've had many a run where we've failed the DPS check at 1% heart so this kind of management does matter.

I think the best way to do this fight is to make your own group and be ruthless. Have a 2 strikes and you're out policy. Of course it's no good doing this unless you're confident in your own dodging ability too. Until then just learn via DF and less demanding groups.

**Ratatapa** · 2013-09-30 03:38

Originally Posted by MF Perm tha Fineass

you paid someone to walk you through a glitched titan for your relic. while you may be an authority on gimp you may be best served by shutting the fuck up. gimp.

Ok si now I paid someone? Lol w/e haha

**Kalendor** · 2013-09-30 04:03

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I hate this fight. I always end up in a group where one or two people don't know how to dodge, and it's usually a healer (slim pickings for these on my server too). And there's always one in the group who doesn't know how to DPS. One group last night I was one of three BLMs, one guy did under 1/3 my DPS on the heart despite me being in the rock at the start of the fight. I don't even know how that's possible (he was alive). His DPS for the first phase was terrible too.

A tip for all DPSs: Ensure all your cooldowns are ready and (if you're a DD mage your MP is full) in time for heart. Don't pop the cooldowns until after the first person is targeted with a rock in case it is you so that you don't waste them. I've had many a run where we've failed the DPS check at 1% heart so this kind of management does matter.

I think the best way to do this fight is to make your own group and be ruthless. Have a 2 strikes and you're out policy. Of course it's no good doing this unless you're confident in your own dodging ability too. Until then just learn via DF and less demanding groups.

seriously, after doing this too many times, I wonder how it's even possible to fuck up the heart phase, even with an average PUG. I mean, build the LB gauge on phase 1 by healing the tank if you want to be sure! There are enough reasons to fuck up in phase 5 to ensure that at least you get through heart easily.

**Sephiroth** · 2013-09-30 04:20

Originally Posted by Kalendor

seriously, after doing this too many times, I wonder how it's even possible to fuck up the heart phase, even with an average PUG. I mean, build the LB gauge on phase 1 by healing the tank if you want to be sure! There are enough reasons to fuck up in phase 5 to ensure that at least you get through heart easily.

It's best to get through the heart without using the LB if you can as it helps later, but it's risky as you're more likely to fail the DPS check. But if you use a 2 bar LB and still fail to kill it there's something seriously wrong with the group, which was the case in my example. When you see the second person go in the rock you should know whether you're about to wipe or not and pop the LB if the answer is yes. Most groups seem to LB early which can be a waste if you did have the DPS to do it without.

**Rocl** · 2013-09-30 04:27

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

one of three BLMs,

**Sephiroth** · 2013-09-30 04:49

Originally Posted by Rocl

Having three BLMs isn't a bad thing if they all know their shit. I keep up with melee DD in parses. Problem is a lot struggle just to dodge nevermind DD between the dodging.

**Limlight** · 2013-09-30 09:22

Originally Posted by Enygma55

Yea tanks should be 5.5k HP and 7k for WARs. Everyone should have atleast 3300 hp or u wont survive stomps period. Dont bother going into Titan with less than that. You will die to his unavoidiable AOE.

Respec into VIT if need be for the meantime til u can get better gear to cover the HP.

When I started doing titan I only had 5k hp on pld and survived fairly easily. As long as you know how to manage your CD's it was plenty to survive. 5.5 is if your healer is really bad.

**Carth** · 2013-09-30 09:58

Originally Posted by Limlight

When I started doing titan I only had 5k hp on pld and survived fairly easily. As long as you know how to manage your CD's it was plenty to survive. 5.5 is if your healer is really bad.

Agreed here. 5k is the minimum in my opinion. 4500 HP is possible, which is why I said it can be done, but that's pretty tight on your healers.

**Ezek** · 2013-09-30 14:46

4.5k HP is doable if your healers baby sit you with pre-stoneskin + sch shield before every Mountain Buster + you rotate CDs on it and never get hit by bombs.

In other words, would not recommend doing.

**Kirbyprime** · 2013-09-30 14:51

I'm running on 5.3k now now. I don't usually go down below 2k but I suppose it helps alleviates healer's chances of having a heart attack.

**Limlight** · 2013-09-30 15:08

as long as you avoid bombs and time your cd's correctly (like ezek said) there is literally nothing more that you can do. It's all on everyone else (which is the flustrating part!)

**Zubis** · 2013-09-30 15:11

There's easy safe spots for tanks to avoid bombs so I don't see any reason you'd have to worry about that.

**Alkimi** · 2013-09-30 16:51

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It's best to get through the heart without using the LB if you can as it helps later, but it's risky as you're more likely to fail the DPS check. But if you use a 2 bar LB and still fail to kill it there's something seriously wrong with the group, which was the case in my example. When you see the second person go in the rock you should know whether you're about to wipe or not and pop the LB if the answer is yes. Most groups seem to LB early which can be a waste if you did have the DPS to do it without.

As a decent indicator, if the heart isn't down or very nearly down by the 2nd plumes then use limit break.

**Sephiroth** · 2013-10-01 03:13

Originally Posted by Alkimi

As a decent indicator, if the heart isn't down or very nearly down by the 2nd plumes then use limit break.

I was going to say that but wasn't sure if there's enough time to use the LB between that and the jump but I noticed last night that there is.

I finally downed him last night in a PUG on like the 10th attempt. Never been so happy to clear content in a game lol. The group stayed together because we wiped at like 2% on the third attempt.

**Kalendor** · 2013-10-01 03:50

I think people are just repeating this fight so much that even PUGs are getting decently good at dodging things lol I noticed that even if people aren't geared better, we usually go further in the fight than a week ago! People should just wait for another week and it will work even in DF

(ok maybe not)

**Odin'sLaw** · 2013-10-01 04:29

i beat this last week and i was seriously 1/379 because assholes can't dodge landslide or there doubling up Plumes and MPKing each other to which as a healer i get the remark of "Well you should heal us!" can't heal insta death asshole :/

**amentis** · 2013-10-01 07:37

It's so frustrating doing this fight as a SCH and watching the other healer (WHM) just being fucking trash.

This on the whole though, was a pretty decent fight, about as hard as an entry level wow boss. Was pretty satisfying when I downed it.

**Kirbyprime** · 2013-10-01 10:53

Tank perspective is worse, haven't been able to kill it yet but from the tank perspective, seeing 7 people not dodging stuff, standing still in pools, hugging bombs, spamming Medica II... ugh...

**Toth** · 2013-10-01 12:27

We tried a smn burn yesterday but could not get heart down fast enough. fester and dots were not enough to get it down and gaol is a killler.

**Grey Jorildyn** · 2013-10-01 12:30

Aww that sucks. Were you even close?

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