Server lag/delay for EU players?

**CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon** · 2013-09-04 07:10

Still have problems with titan after maint. I know when it's coming but not where. Kinda just starting to run right before it pops and hope I don't run into one. Which actually works kinda decent. Except I'm not sitting there pumping out dps as fast as I know I can.

**Aleth** · 2013-09-04 07:32

From UK on a JP legacy server. This is a big deal at the moment as AOEs seem to hit me even if I'm quite a long way out of the red cones.

**Neviskio** · 2013-09-04 07:32

By the way I noticed a post in the general section of the eu community on the official forums for eu datacenters, might want to be posting there if you didn't to try and give more weight to the topic.Kinda hope they care, not really interested into end game when random bullshit happens and kills you because they decided to have the datacenter on another continent.You can do that when precision and latency aren't needed, like in XI where it was far more forgiving...

**Invictus** · 2013-09-04 12:35

Use www.speedtest.net and try to hit a Montreal Server to get a rough idea of the connection you have. My Ping to Montreal is about 16ms, and when I use the ARRStatus Android app to target the Excalibur server, I get around 20. Conversely, the internet in Japan is excellent, but a FFXIV server over there gives me around 180 ms, so that's 9 times the delay. It's still under a quarter of a second (250 ms) but for a reaction-positioning base MMO, it may not be sufficient enough.

If your ISP doesn't have a good connection to whoever the ISP/host is in Montreal, there's very little that can be done (Don't call tech support; honestly, we can no control over it).

Another other option is to "force" an update to the server by firing off an instant attack/WS after you are where you want to be so that it can send your location before the server does the query for it.

**CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon** · 2013-09-04 15:48

I have 48 to montreal, 177 to tokyo.

**Elpy** · 2013-09-04 16:30

126ms here, can double that up for an effective 252ms to account for hitzone display and position relay to server delays i guess? Hope its that simple, cant see a quarter of a second hurting me much when it comes to evading. Still waiting on my box to arrive.

**Icarian** · 2013-09-04 17:52

168-175 the lowest 2 208-235 the highest 2, tested all four.

Thing is, this doesn't even seem related to latency, I'm trying to down titan, some ground AoEs will hit me while being "far" while others I'd say they were a much closer call don't hit me, it's so weird.

**biglarsen** · 2013-09-05 20:09

It really is a travesty that the EU servers are hosted in fucking Canada. Completely unacceptable of a 2013 AAA title, and another brick in the wall of absolutely horrendous infrastructure for this game. There's such a staggering mismatch between the disgustingly poor service and the excellent gameplay that it almost beggars belief. EU tanks are at a gigantic disadvantage because it's nearly impossible to hit moving mobs, I've often been right on top of something and been unable to even do an Overpower because the mob was actually like 15 yards away server-side. I have less than 40ms latency in any game with actual EU servers, but something like 150 in FFXIV.

**Invictus** · 2013-09-05 22:07

Originally Posted by biglarsen

Some angry stuff.

Cool story, bro.

**Vektrat** · 2013-09-06 04:59

Hello,

I guess this is reflected to a post I made in the game bugs section a few days ago, it was moved to Accepted yesterday night.

I can't post a link to the post because I just registered, it's in the Accepted bugs category (English Forum), called: [GAMEBREAKING] Ability/moving objects delay and unresponsiveness (affects everybody)

I hope they fix this.

**ChocoFeru** · 2013-09-06 05:34

I'm from Eu too, and I have the same problem. I know when Titan is about to do something, and I can try to counter the big delay, but sometimes is useless.

This is not a lack of skill, because avoiding Titan stuff is cake, but it really puts a big wall for us, because we're unable to complete content and continue forward.

Plus I don't know if there's a way to improve the latency ._. maybe hiring a proxy or something, I don't know, I'm just desperated at this point.

**Eldelphia** · 2013-09-06 05:35

Good to see.

**Neviskio** · 2013-09-06 08:04

So...how's anyone doing with stuns? Been asked a few times to be on stun duty and well...no matter how quickly I react/know the pattern, half the time the stun goes off, debuff is there, mobs stops attacking, but the cast goes off.

I wanted to be a tank as a second job but with this delay I'm not sure...I hoped that it was also a transitory thing the aoe problem, but nope...

Also a huge suggestion: don't ws while moving for an aoe, no matter how far I go, if I hit any ability while moving, I'm 100% sure to be hit by the aoe.It's foolproof <.<

**Viena** · 2013-09-06 08:14

Sometimes I have little issue avoiding AOEs, sometimes it becomes hit or miss, on the same boss. While it's hit or miss, I sometimes get away from the circle with seconds to spare and still get hit, while on the next AOE I could barely make it and didn't get hit. My ping is around 120ms, but I'm sure there's more to it than that (could be a server load issue perhaps). When it happens it makes some fights incredibly annoying for me.

**nonolepyro** · 2013-09-06 10:06

I'm experiencing the same problem here. I'm from France and playing on a NA server (not like it matters anyway since EU and NA servers are in canada). The lag starts around 5-6pm my time and disappear around 10am during the week, week ends are hell. I'm only experiencing it in donjons, nowhere else. 2-3s delay on casts, some random 5s freezes, aoe which still hit me while i'm 100 yards away. As a healer i have to anticipate everything but i'm starting to reach my limits with the primals HM. From what i heard a lot of french players have the same issue, the only solution is a vpn.

**Alkar** · 2013-09-06 10:11

Originally Posted by geoniq

Sup, Alkar. It's Malthroy from Asura FFXI

. By EU, you meant "Ragnarok" ?

Yep

**Argantes** · 2013-09-06 13:24

I generally dont'have problems avoiding aoe etc, but today I did ifrit hardmode and all I had to do was stun eruption.
I would do it as soon as it came up but I was always too late and people started bitching about it.
So yeah, I guess it's mroe of an issue than I initially thought.

**Neviskio** · 2013-09-06 13:31

I've started seeing some videos and gifs around to show the problem.Admittedly they are a lot more marked than what I'm experiencing, but the concept is the same.This gif makes me cringe tho

Usually is less marked for me but this happens, and I've seen happen to other people.How can you do any kind of endgame like this? <.<

**Scythiroth** · 2013-09-06 13:55

Stated many times, but that is from beta phase 3 and that issue was "fixed". It isn't perfect now, but it isn't anywhere near that bad from what I've seen anyways (it may be for some people depending on how bad their latency is).

edit: But yeah, not sure I really agree with them putting one data center kinda in the middle for NA and EU, it will obviously create issues for those that are far away from it, and I do notice them at times living where I do in the southwest of NA.

**Neviskio** · 2013-09-06 14:04

Not sure about the gif but I can tell you people have been making videos of release of the same situation with their latency being something like 100 and that shit happening.I myself I just logged on wow an hour ago to be sure, didn't have more than 20ms, logged back in ffxiv, tried to avoid an aoe, happened something close to that(less marked).

It's not fixed in any shape or form if you check the official forums...it's just less bad than what it was in beta 3.And my isp is not throttling my line, is not doing shit, and I don't think a 100ms ping can cause THAT much of a delay...

like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5g4TM1fkCg

for reference a few more info are found here http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-everybody%29

yeah I know official servers, but this is really a problem..

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