BLM questions

[Niiro]

Ah, I forgot about Ruin.

The parry rate comment was jokingly referring to Hawk's eye, as that's about all the utility you get from it.

[Rocl]

oh derp, i just assumed you meant Keen Flurry

[Sephiroth]

If they're going to give us access to Hawk's Eye you'd think they would at least make it affect magical accuracy as well. Seems like they overlooked that when deciding which skills BLM can have.

[Yukari]

How would one go about calculating how much PIE is needed to do the following combo?

Flare -> Convert -> Fire 2 -> Flare?

I know that at 244 PIE, it's not possible, but at 250, it is, and I was wondering how low I could go and get away with it.

[Niiro]

Being in a party?

The PIE increase from your healer will give you more than 250.

[Raldo]

Only SCH gives PIE, right? I think WHM is MND?

[Niiro]

I always thought the boosts were dependent on whether someone in the party had a certain stat above a certain threshold (for your level), didn't know they were directly tied to class.

[Yukari]

It is tied to which classes are in the party, but in this specific case (WP Speedruns), I won't usually be having a SCH in the party. Unfortunately, I'm not at my game computer, so I can't just look up MP costs and how much MP 1 PIE gives, otherwise, I would just calculate it myself. Though, offhand, one thing I don't know is how much minimum MP you have to have for Flare.

[Grey Jorildyn]

How would one go about calculating how much PIE is needed to do the following combo?

Flare -> Convert -> Fire 2 -> Flare?

I know that at 244 PIE, it's not possible, but at 250, it is, and I was wondering how low I could go and get away with it.

I knew the answer two weeks ago when I was melding my gear for this very thing. I have 253 PIE and my convert brings me to 1123 MP, 7 more than I need to do it.

[Niiro]

For reference, Fire 3 is 850mp and BLM gets 8.2 MP/PIE.

Is the minimum required MP for Flare a set # or is it a minimum mp %?

[Grey Jorildyn]

Well you need a minimum of 3720MP if my math is right, so whatever PIE amount gets you that is what you need.

[Yukari]

Well, if that's the case, then you can get away with exactly 250 PIE, since that's what I have and I have exactly 3720 MP.

[Niiro]

Seems to be 265-270 mp, very strange number.

It's hard to manipulate your MP to get the exact value.

[Yukari]

When I get home, I'm just going to try singleton PIE values and see when the combo fails to fire off to find the value.

[Grey Jorildyn]

Just cast flare then wave over flare to see it's minimum mp cost. Add 850, bam. Pretty sure it's 266, at least it is for me... Don't think t's based on a % of something.

[Lokus]

^ Confirming, Flare is 266 MP. Kinda shocked me at first since I originally thought Flare was simply all your current MP with no minimum needed.

[Niiro]

Just cast flare then wave over flare to see it's minimum mp cost. Add 850, bam. Pretty sure it's 266, at least it is for me... Don't think t's based on a % of something.

/faceslap

I forgot when you moused over it the MP cost was an actual number rather than just "All" like it is on the icon.

[Yukari]

And yeah, confirming that you need 250 PIE or more to do a fire2 + flare combo after convert, and that 250 PIE gets you exactly 3720 MP. Also, yeah, it's 266mp for flare for me as well.

[Spider-Dan]

Turning away doesn't interrupt a cast until its completion, so that would be the slowest way really.

The fastest should just be a slight little nudge in any direction, jumping takes longer as you need to wait for the jump to finish before you can act again.

That actually depends on your input type. For whatever reason, pushing the jump button (Y or /\) on a controller during a cast does not make you jump; it simply cancels your cast.

[Fievel]

You can also just hit escape on the keyboard, does nothing but cancel the cast.