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  1. #21
    Bitchfist
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    Only big thing I do different from Eidle's rotation is jumping in with Miasma2 on bosses prolly alot more often.

    I tend to use Ifrit in most cases that stun doesn't matter, though I do enjoy Garuda, Ifrit is just one less thing I have to worry about for the most part.

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    Does Raging Strikes apply to pets as well?

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    Just by throwing it up, no. Someone would have to test if it applies by having it up when you summon (as it does with making a stat check with your gear) but I would assume no.

    Late Edit: I assume no because Cleric Stance didn't magically make my fairy suck at healing; she acted like I didn't have it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indalecia View Post
    Only big thing I do different from Eidle's rotation is jumping in with Miasma2 on bosses prolly alot more often.

    I tend to use Ifrit in most cases that stun doesn't matter, though I do enjoy Garuda, Ifrit is just one less thing I have to worry about for the most part.
    Miasma 2 is less damage than Ruin/2 on single targets if you're not using Garuda (Contagion). You should be using Garuda anyway but if you're not you should Ruin (or Ruin 2 if MP allows for dat blind mitigation) on bosses unless adds are involved.

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    Does Raging Strikes apply to pets as well?
    Can you cross class archer skills as SMN? I don't have arc leveled so I can't test for myself. I don't think you can though, so thats nothing we could fit in our rotation.

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidle View Post
    Can you cross class archer skills as SMN? I don't have arc leveled so I can't test for myself. I don't think you can though, so thats nothing we could fit in our rotation.
    Yes, you can. SMN gets skills from Archer and Thaumaturge.

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    SMN's crossclass is Archer + Thaumaturge

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    Well shit, I'm the worst summoner ever then. I also need to go level archer now.

    I saw some cross class spread sheet that said summoner can cross class aero from CNJ, and you totally can't, so that's why I assumed the archer cross class stuff was BS too.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfgang View Post
    Almost positive XIVAPP does not parse SMN / DOT damage correctly by a wide margin. We had a god awful SMN in a Titan group that parsed at 320dps (gross damage of like 60,000 and he was dead a third of the time). That is impossible.
    It doesn't parse correctly right now. It did at one point, however.

    This parse is from four or five Turn 4 attempts, including one kill. The DoT damage is wrong, but even if you fix it, I'm still highest DPS by a large margin, at 703161 total.
    Subtract Bio, Miasma, and Skyshard damage, then add Garuda's damage.

    EDIT: Actually, the DoT damage might not be totally incorrect.


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    It never did. When it parsed "correctly" I had Scholar's doubling my total damage on Warrior in AK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    It never did. When it parsed "correctly" I had Scholar's doubling my total damage on Warrior in AK.
    In one of last week's updates, it was only counting Bio II damage and it looked like a correct sum of all DoTs, with Miasma/Bio at 0.
    I don't know how you're seeing high SCH damage. We run a SCH for everything and it never has meaningful amounts.


    I just checked on dummies, My Bio + Bio II + Miasma average 89 DPS without food or the group int buff.

    Each of these attempts was about 6 minutes, and one was a bit over 7 minutes. The DoT damage looks correct. The total for five 6-minute attempts would be 171k, assuming my DoTs average 95 DPS in a group, though it's likely higher.
    The extra 30k is probably the kill attempt, which took about 7:30, and extra damage from the two uses of Raging Strikes + HQ Int potion + Contagion.

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    Well as a Sch in AK, for example, while my damage on the first 2 bosses is negligible, due to the healing required, I am able to output a significant amount on trash & the final boss actually. (With cleric stance up naturally)

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