Random Fail: your words are false

[Elcura]

It is something, it's the lead in.

I...uhhh, yeah. That's about it.

[Spider-Dan]

blah blah had some arguments with the leader in time, nothing big, he threaten to kicked me

Since I didn't make any friends (cuz lolfriends with pixels in a MMO)

Since Hyperion is a place of crybaby

But I continued doing my shit, because most people that complained were people that either

a) Don't scan and just wait for it to be called)
b) Morons

At that time I still didn't had T13 wins, because I refused to gimp myself to please other groups. (Tired of people asking me to gimp myself, instead of asking their players to get better) (Aka groups were asking me not to nuke because WHM didn't want to solo heal first part of T13 and all that dumb shit).

You're right, it's probably everyone else.

[Ratatapa]

I don't remember saying it was everyone else

[Korialstrasz]

Nailed it!

Spoiler: show

[Byrthnoth]

I'm an FFXIV noob still. I've been playing for maybe a month and have only leveled paladin (i120 atm) and DoL/DoH jobs, so I try not to judge.

Still, I had a share-worthy Amdapor Keep (hard) last night with a healer so bad that our group was her fourth attempt at the dungeon. I'm fine with explaining stuff, failing a few times (failure penalty in this game is a joke), etc., but wow. At one point I pulled 5 mobs with Rampart up, positioned them under a flailing vine, and then popped Sentinel with 70% HP remaining. The monsters just meleed me to death. I honestly didn't even go for Hallowed Ground because I assumed a cure would come at some point, but no dice. It's fortunate that most of the mechanics in the zone are coordinated by DPS instead of the healer, because otherwise I think we would have been her fourth group to vote abandon.

[Ratatapa]

That is really bad indeed

[Yelta]

Last night in Copperbell (Hard) I had a PLD with less HP than my Fairy.

[Eeeks]

I enjoy playing BLM and SMN, but Byrth's experience is why I often play WHM. It puts me in a position to prop up those inevitable lousy parties long enough to clear whatever it is we're doing. It's no FFXI RDM, but it's good enough for me. That and the queue times ain't bad either!

[The Stig]

Last night in Copperbell (Hard) I had a PLD with less HP than my Fairy.

I literally just came out of one, PLD has 4300hp, my fairy has 5500 lol

Luckily, the 2 rookies in the party listened to me, so I was able to co-ordinate a bit (skip stuff, rush stuff, do this do that). Went flawlessly.

[Spider-Dan]

I enjoy playing BLM and SMN, but Byrth's experience is why I often play WHM. It puts me in a position to prop up those inevitable lousy parties long enough to clear whatever it is we're doing. It's no FFXI RDM, but it's good enough for me. That and the queue times ain't bad either!

I believe SCH is the mathematically purest job for DR Expert.

- can prop up even the gimpiest tanks with beefy adlo shields
- can heal like a boss if you get a good party that can pull everything to each wall
- can switch to Selene and DPS good enough to push bad DPS groups forward at a medium pace
- healer queues are acceptable

[Kaisha]

I believe SCH is the mathematically purest job for DR Expert.

Problem is when tank has shit HP and you forget Lustrate isn't as great at 4-5k HP as it is 8k+.

[Ratatapa]

[Lonely]

Should have just stuck to healing like the rest of DF healers.

[The Stig]

Fail #1 - I scared off a PLD tank because as a SCH I have no protect and I was trying to get her to skip some adds in Copperbell HD
Fail #2 - Replacement tank comes in, laughs/confused that i do not have protect. Casts protect himself, but is happy to tank in sword oath

PRIORITIES

[Spider-Dan]

Tanking Copperbell Hard in Sword Oath is win, not fail.

[Tarli]

Fail #1 - I scared off a PLD tank because as a SCH I have no protect and I was trying to get her to skip some adds in Copperbell HD
Fail #2 - Replacement tank comes in, laughs/confused that i do not have protect. Casts protect himself, but is happy to tank in sword oath

PRIORITIES

But, why would you not have protect? I mean, it's one thing to say you don't need it, but what else are you using you cross class for? Surecast? Blizzard II?

[Spider-Dan]

There are SCHs out there who won't level CNJ. I partied with a SCH in FCoB who didn't have SS.

[Yukari]

Don't you have to actually have level 15 CNJ to even do the SCH quest, thus already having protect? I don't even know what other crossclasses you would have over protect anyways...

[The Stig]

Oh I shoot for Cleric > Aero > Blizzard 2 > Swiftcast > Stoneskin

More aoe DPS

Protect used to be where Blizzard 2 was until I realised that SMN use Blizzard 2 for AoE when targets are more than 3. So I copied it! Unrealised potential. I'm happy with this; with shit DPS I can make more DPS. With good DPS I can make some pulls even more faster!

With a low ilvl tank, 1 embrace and psyhick will fully heal them lol.

edit: it's ok, at level 55 I will have an extra slot for protect. Look forward to it!

[Niiro]

Afaik we aren't getting more cross-class slots with increased level (and if we did it would be 1 more at 60, not 55).