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  1. #4021
    Hyperion Cross
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    I'm not sure what the values at 3.0 are, but in 2.5 I eyeballed that melee LB1 was approximately 6000 damage, and LB2 was 13000 damage

    Fuck your 1000 damage, I'm not waiting/wasting unless absolutely required (e.g. Odin)

    edit: small world eh? screenshot a few posts above is of the same person

    edit2: cleared up some notes

  2. #4022
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    I just don't care about limit breaks in DF anymore. More effort than necessary.

  3. #4023
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    I'll open fights with it but if it's the last boss and I am in mid combo and boss <10% I ain't stoppin. Tank lb or something for a cd and dps more pls.

  4. #4024
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    Best part is when the healer (aka me normally) used LB at like 2-3 % of the final boss, and all the DPS raging

    OMG WHY DID YOU LB FKING HEALER blah blah

  5. #4025
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Best part is when the healer (aka me normally) used LB at like 2-3 % of the final boss, and all the DPS raging

    OMG WHY DID YOU LB FKING HEALER blah blah
    That always makes me mad, because I know I forgot. I forget all the time. I think it's because I am so tunnel visioned on ways to raise my parse number and using limit break actually lowers that number.

    To make it worse my initials are lb, and some people actually call me lb, so when people in party are always like "lb". I just respond with a "yes?"

  6. #4026
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    As a healer I get super annoyed (maybe partially why I don't heal anymore) at the dps for not lbing. But as a dps now I'm like i don't have time for lb gotta zergzerg lol

  7. #4027
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    It's more reasonable because chances are the DPS are doing shit-tier damage and the LB actually makes a decent difference. If you went with a full premade where LBing a boss saves maybe 3 seconds, you probably wouldn't care if they didn't use it.

  8. #4028
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    I generally don't bother LBing unless there's a specific mechanic the LB helps with or we get LB2.

    Or like, when the set of 5 adds spawn on the fractal boss and I notice the LB and use it just so we can kill the boss without having to deal with them.

  9. #4029
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    People get mad at me when I tell them to ignore any adds that line up with a boss from 2nd or last boss. I just lb them both so they can tunnel vision on the boss more.

  10. #4030
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    Personally, I've gotten Vote Kicked quite a few times out of EX Roulette for using Melee LB before the last boss.
    So at this point, if I was doing it with randoms I'd just hold the LB so I can get it over with and not have to re-queue and suffer through whatever I had already done.

  11. #4031
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    Tbh if I'm with another melee DPS, I feel like using LB is a game of chicken. The guy who uses it loses.

  12. #4032
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    Quote Originally Posted by AoE View Post
    Tbh if I'm with another melee DPS, I feel like using LB is a game of chicken. The guy who uses it loses.
    Been lvling my NIN lately (refraining from making any more mudra-lag comments), and my pet peeve is that if I get paired with another melee dps, and the tank does a big pull, they never use any fucking AoE skills. By the time the pull is dead I'm drained on TP and they're sitting at full.

    That and seeing a lvl55+ DPS who don't do positionals.

  13. #4033
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    When on dps, if the other dps doesnt use the lb at an appropriate time I just use it instead. I rarely preempt but I don't consider using it that big a deal. It's not a life-changing decision like some people seem to want to make it out to be.

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    when i go on melee i like to lb the most random things. Especially if we aoe a pack and a stray add is like half health i just lb for kicks.

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    People get aggravated when I tend to punch the highest health add.

  16. #4036
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leadleaf View Post
    People get aggravated when I tend to punch the highest health add.
    1. How many mobs we talking? 4 or more, you should be using AOE.
    2. Who talks in /say when you're in a party.

  17. #4037
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    I'm assuming he was doing the standard rockbreaker aoe combo, which you still gotta pick a mob to punch(or kick anyway).

    At least I hope.

  18. #4038
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    Sadly you see this type of micromanaging attempt more often when there are just 2 or 3 mobs. Any more than that and the average player gets confused and too distracted to notice what his other party members are doing.

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    There's Raptor form and Autoattacks either way. Pic was small pulls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qeomash View Post
    1. How many mobs we talking? 4 or more, you should be using AOE.
    Monk tho.

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