Random Fail: your words are false

[Luthia]

What is this "Stoneskin is a WHM skill, I am a SCH" stuff? Does that also mean you don't have time for Protect?
Are you one of these guys whose immersion is ruined by having to level THM for Swiftcast?

edit: Never mind, mystery solved. You aren't casting Stoneskin because your CNJ is LV22. (It also appears that your PLD is LV60 but you haven't even unlocked MRD?)

Time for the good old "you came to the right thread" comments...

I also wouldnt take time to fuckin cast ss even if I had it. He was gettin adlo, lol And this is an alt, but I aint gonna go to savage with pld, which is why Im lvlin sch. Btw, My main has all jobs 50, and about 5 at 60. Also mains scholar, and guess what it doesnt have cross classed? You guessed it, stone skin. I´d maybe cc ss if we had more slots, but as it stands, adlo + fairy is enough to keep any tank alive in dungeons while the sch dps.

And yeah, fuck protect in low level dungeons. Cleric all day long.

@Alicia, I try not to look at it too much. In fact, I hardly ever pay attn to the logs, but this pld was bitchin way too much, Lol.

@TheDirtyHobo, how was that self righteousness? Lol It was an attempt at sarcasm, I was pullin aggro off a fuckin bane, ffs, Lol.

[Spider-Dan]

So you're a SCH main, and you don't equip Stoneskin because... you prefer Surecast or Blizz2?

I don't know if these are things I would be voluntarily telling other people if I were you.

[Luthia]

So you're a SCH main, and you don't equip Stoneskin because... you prefer Surecast or Blizz2?

I don't know if these are things I would be voluntarily telling other people if I were you.

Whats wrong with having blizz over ss? God, free dps is free dps. My sch pulls close to 1k dps in as2, is that a bad thing too?

[Spider-Dan]

God, free dps is free dps.

It would seem that "free DPS is free DPS" somehow doesn't apply to getting Mercy Stroke for PLD, as your LV60 PLD doesn't even have MRD unlocked.

I'm also a bit confused by this:

And yeah, fuck protect in low level dungeons. Cleric all day long.

What does Cleric Stance have to do with casting Protect? Notwithstanding the fact that you were in a LV55 dungeon, Protect lasts for 30 minutes, so even in a <LV40 dungeon, you can simply cast it and then change your cross-class actions.

The real irony here is that Stoneskin's potency is not reduced by Cleric Stance, meaning that you can cast it as a 10% "heal" without having to stance dance.

[Luthia]

It would seem that "free DPS is free DPS" somehow doesn't apply to getting Mercy Stroke for PLD, as your LV60 PLD doesn't even have MRD unlocked.

I'm also a bit confused by this:


What does Cleric stance have to do with casting Protect?

The real irony here is that Stoneskin's potency is not reduced by Cleric Stance, meaning that you can cast it as a 10% "heal" without having to stance dance.

Omg.. Lol Ill just leave you along. You seem to not understand that character with almost nothing leveled IS A FUCKIN ALT. And cleric instead of protect, cause cc slots. No fuckin scholar is gonna stop to hardcast ss midbattle, if the target needs healing that bad, just lustrate his ass and keep dpsing, lol. Bye now, keep arguing with yourself.

[TheDirtyHobo]

"I'm a SCH not a WHM, I haven't cast stoneskin since 1.0" comes off as pretty self-righteous, especially when you don't actually have the skill, alt or not.

[Luthia]

"I'm a SCH not a WHM, I haven't cast stoneskin since 1.0" comes off as pretty self-righteous, especially when you don't actually have the skill, alt or not.

Go back and read the logs again, please. Your probably confusing me with the blm. Tho I did say the "Im a sch now a whm" bit, but it was mostly to poke fun at him since he was being so anal about everything. Really wished I had the full logs, but, PS4 limitations and all.

[Spider-Dan]

"I'm a SCH not a WHM, I haven't cast stoneskin since 1.0" comes off as pretty self-righteous, especially when you don't actually have the skill, alt or not.

That was two completely different players failing.

One of them (the BLM) hasn't cast stoneskin since 1.0 (i.e. before SCH existed); the other (the SCH) hasn't even leveled CNJ high enough to get Stoneskin (on his "alt"). And on his main, he has SS but he doesn't equip it because he prefers Blizz2. Especially for raid content!

edit: It would be easier to accept "I'm a SCH, not a WHM" as just trolling if you had actually had SS available. Otherwise, it just looks like you're making excuses for being lazy, which is corroborated by you leveling PLD to 60 without Mercy Stroke.

[Luthia]

Especially for raid content!

Done as1/2? Mind sharing where exactly is SS is an absolute must to have, that adlo doesnt take care of? I mean who knows, maybe Im completely fuckin up with sch, and you could impart some of your wisdom to make me a better player.

Shit, even my co whm doesnt cast ss mid battle on anytone other than the tank, Lol.

[Spider-Dan]

Mind sharing where exactly is SS is an absolute must to have, that adlo doesnt take care of?

Any time you want to precast extra damage mitigation to a target that already has a shield?

It's not like you're arguing that SS is situational; you're saying it's literally useless on SCH (on a SCH main, even!). You don't equip it on your main and you can't equip it on your alt. And you thought that someone else calling you out for not having SS (because "that's a WHM ability, not a SCH ability") was a noteworthy example of that person failing.

Honestly, I don't know why you're still trying so hard to deploy this "I max my DPS at all times bro" smokescreen when you have a LV60 PLD that hasn't even unlocked MRD.

[Luthia]

Any time you want to precast extra damage mitigation to a target that already has a shield?

It's not like you're arguing that SS is situational; you're saying it's literally useless on SCH.

Lol. Yeah, bye now.

[Raen Ryong]

Any time you want to precast extra damage mitigation to a target that already has a shield?

Which is what ability in the game? What ability in the game requires both an Adlo and a Scholar Stoneskin for preparation?

[Dotsudoku]

Absolutely anything you want to DPS? Why would you not apply shields if you have them?

[Zeille]

I only use my sch for Alex Savage and the occasional Rav/Bis Ex. Swapped out Stoneskin for blizz2 a long time ago. Not sure what the big deal is here.

I guess it would be nice to have pre-pull in a dungeon run, but I hardly think it would really make or break anything.

[Karbuncle]

Which is what ability in the game? What ability in the game requires both an Adlo and a Scholar Stoneskin for preparation?

T13 did (not to mention/or Tank LB). Though I'm sure you're specifying "SCH Stoneskin" for a reason...

Its not a matter of "Are they 100% necessary and needed?", No, barely anything in XIV is 100% necessary and needed for a good share of content... I could sit here and argue DPS OCD cooldowns aren't necessary on but a handful of time sensitive fights since you can spam combo 1 and still beat most enemies (or in the honor of shit tanks, RAGE OF HALONERAGE OF HALONERAGE OF HALONE), but it would be retarded because we know the benefits OCD abilities can provide damage wise even if their utility isn't working on the boss, I'd argue precasting (and only precasting, except in cases like Succor), Shields are the same. They provide you with more buffer between DPS and switching to cure, especially so with bad DPS since curing DPS who get hit by ALL THE AOES eats up a lot of time.

[Luthia]

I only use my sch for Alex Savage and the occasional Rav/Bis Ex. Swapped out Stoneskin for blizz2 a long time ago. Not sure what the big deal is here.

I guess it would be nice to have pre-pull in a dungeon run, but I hardly think it would really make or break anything.

It isnt, guy is a retard and talkin out of his ass. Just ignore and move on, xD

[Kipling]

Stoneskin on SCH is just a good panic button to have.

e.g. Someone dies just before Cascade or Mortal Revolution. You want to ensure their life even while weakened, so I will Adlo + Stoneskin them while my WHM continues healing the raid and gets protect. Sure it's niche, but I'd much prefer to have it available when I need it (which is much more often in progression).

[Carth]

You guys must be bored as shit if this conversation is still going on.

[Luthia]

Stoneskin on SCH is just a good panic button to have.

e.g. Someone dies just before Cascade or Mortal Revolution. You want to ensure their life even while weakened, so I will Adlo + Stoneskin them while my WHM continues healing the raid and gets protect. Sure it's niche, but I'd much prefer to have it available when I need it (which is much more often in progression).

Extremely situational, and in most cases adlo/ss alone will take care of the problem, unless the dps is a retard and dies again, in which case, you have a whole other problem in your hands.

@Alicia, I am, spammin fates in hinterlands is borin af.

[Kipling]

People die multiple times in progression, yes. That's why it's called progression.