Random Fail: your words are false

[Alistaire]

Seems like some people want it two ways.
1.No matter how hard or easy the content, get through it as fast and efficiently as possible by doing your job to the best of your ability every time (this seems to be the overall mentality on BG)
2. It's easy mode who cares about the method as long as we get through it

They're both opinions of how to approach easy content but of course anytime you post something that deviates from #1 you will get shit on here, that's just how it works. And you can't have it both ways (call out people for playing inefficiently in some content and then play inefficiently yourself in other content) cause then you'll get called out for it

Either way arguing with Elcura is always like beating your head against a brick wall, idk why anyone bothers. Boredom?

The only problem with #2 is that some content is just never easy enough for some people, and/or we're doing easy content for low drop rate stuff and want it to be efficient. Also some people enjoy doing things well no matter how easy the content.

It's like in Gilgamesh fight the other day someone asked why I didn't want to break tether. Explained briefly and got "lol this is easy don't bother". Well 1# it wasn't a big deal either way...but since that's the case and doing it properly isn't hard why do it wrong?

And yeah, Elcura vs everyone else ends the same way in every thread and he's never gotten an ounce of indication he's full of shit. Why anyone bothers is pure unadulterated optimism that common sense might eventually get thru. It's not gonna happen, but then it's not really a whole lot of effort or stress to post enough to get him to spout more retardation and he's actually kind of unintentionally funny so there's that comic relief value in it.

[Silenka]

Without Elcura every thread in the XIV section would be at least 5 pages shorter so I guess we can at least thank him for making it look more active than it is.

[Luthia]

Without Elcura every thread in the XIV section would be at least 5 pages shorter so I guess we can at least thank him for making it look more active than it is.

Yeah its always fun to watch him argue with others. Official BG´s mascot title, maybe?

[Elcura]

la·zy
ˈlāzē/Submit
adjective
1.
unwilling to work or use energy.

So, no, I'm using the actual definition.

And your willingness to use a parser was never in question, but thanks for bringing it up, it only serves to further my point about how you weren't willing to do all that you could. Which again, isn't a bad thing, but it's enjoyable to watch you try your hardest to deny anyways.

LOL

So healing, DPS'ing, using cards, dodging mechanics is unwilling to do work or use energy because I didn't load a parse and look at it to make my decisions? Are you really that dense? Or wait...

Yeah if you're an autistic robot that may be the case but most of us don't subscribe to such ridiculous standards (recent posts have changed my mind on that for BG however). If you aren't using potions, healing meds, status meds, parsers and food you are by Hobo's definition lazy. I know you can't see why that's silly, but you're so bent on being right that you're using the most childish standards I've ever seen.

Can we get more ridiculous people backing this up? Please? I really want to see this.

You're either doing all the optimizing you possibly can within your personal skill and knowledge level, or you're being lazy.

Also I thought this was being lazy. So either's it's optimizing all you can withing your personal skill and knowledge level, or it's unwillingness to work or use energy.

So if I couldn't use a parser, or it didn't work am I automatically no longer lazy?

Are PS4 players lazy because they don't get a PC, run a parser and load up the game? I'm really enjoying your definition, because it means everyone is lazy all the time. Except robots or machines, they aren't lazy.

[Shaano]

That's a lot of words for saying you're stupid. Should of just taken the quote I made you.

[TheDirtyHobo]

Yeah if you're an autistic robot that may be the case but most of us don't subscribe to such ridiculous standards (recent posts have changed my mind on that for BG however).

Most people also aren't so determined to fight tooth and nail over being called a simple word. If you had put the amount of effort into doing your job as you have to this argument, it wouldn't have even come up.

If you aren't using potions, healing meds, status meds, parsers and food you are by Hobo's definition lazy.

For food and x/drac pots (are poison pots still a thing? I never used them because I'm lazy), yes, if you aren't using them, you're being lazy. That's nothing new. Other stuff generally no, because it's not optimal to use them. Maybe Ethers on healers if necessary.

Also I thought this was being lazy. So either's it's optimizing all you can withing your personal skill and knowledge level, or it's unwillingness to work or use energy.

Yep.

So if I couldn't use a parser, or it didn't work am I automatically no longer lazy?

If you're doing your best within your means to use the tools available to assess the optimum usage of your skills, yes. But you outright said you weren't because you don't care.

Are PS4 players lazy because they don't get a PC, run a parser and load up the game?

In a perfectly ideal environment where they could have a free PC to do so, and continue playing the game in a manner identical to what they were accustomed to with the added benefit of a parser, sure. I'd go out on a limb and say that that situation doesn't apply to very many people.

I'm really enjoying your definition, because it means everyone is lazy all the time.

To varying degrees, yeah, pretty much. Most people don't like giving something 100% of their effort for sustained portions of time.

[Elcura]

I'm not fighting anything, just getting you to expand on what you think is lazy.

As I suspected, you're fun and ridiculous. Thanks.

[Rocl]

That's a lot of words for saying you're stupid. Should of just taken the quote I made you.

should've* should of isn't a thing

[Rocl]

you sons of bitches

[Niiro]

shoulda*

[Eldelphia]

Should have.

[Shaano]

shota

[Silenka]

It's not really a huge deal because guildhest, but it was the one where 20 mobs pop and no one bothers to kill them because they're all focused on the leader. Meanwhile, this AST was in cleric the entire time (the ACN ended up doing all the healing/casting prot) and I was slightly worried about my ability to survive the beating I was going to get without prot or heals.
Thanks for your giant dps contribution at the expense of the ACN's, guy.

[Korialstrasz]

I like when people post themselves here.

[Silenka]

I probably chose to stress the wrong thing, but nothing about the healing itself was in the log. Not having protect would be fine as long as he was bothering to heal me at all. However, he was so obsessed with his zomg super cleric's dps that he didn't cast a single heal until right at the end, when I was dead anyway (or would have been if it weren't for the ACN). It was an example of one of the healers who goes way overboard with the dps to the point of not doing his job at all.

[Eurell]

If you didn't die, we really don't know if he went overboard or not lol.

[Silenka]

Like I said I would have died if it wasn't for the ACN casting heals! He had to stop dpsing because the healer was so fixated on dps. He was ticked off as you can see. It's just a dumb guildhest though so even if I did die it would only be a small xp loss. But still. This was a big topic of discussion over in the OF fail thread too - bad healers are bad both when they're not dpsing at all and when they're dpsing so much it's to the detriment of the party.

[solracht]

People who ask for protect in low level dungeons/guildhests are the worst.

[Eurell]

Like I said I would have died if it wasn't for the ACN casting heals!

You didn't die though lol, so we don't really know if thats true. The healer may have just been waiting till you were actually in need of it.

[FHT]

I think what Silenka is trying to say is "If that guy had done his job from the beginning and if he had let the ACN do his job, this could have been better & faster." but again, thats my reading of it.