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    Quote Originally Posted by FHT View Post
    I think what Silenka is trying to say is "If that guy had done his job from the beginning and if he had let the ACN do his job, this could have been better & faster." but again, thats my reading of it.
    But unneeded curing instead of DPS does not make things faster. The people in that pic were wrong about his int/mnd split, they were complaining about protect. And she never died.

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    There's certainly a number of things to be said. That ACN must be a serious chicken-shit though, let the healer do their job or lack thereof, then yell at 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    You didn't die though lol, so we don't really know if thats true. The healer may have just been waiting till you were actually in need of it.
    Yeah, its not like essential dignity has a cast time, Lol. ACN/THM/BLM/SMN who cast heals are the worst IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luthia View Post
    Yeah, its not like essential dignity has a cast time, Lol. ACN/THM/BLM/SMN who cast heals are the worst IMO.
    totally the worst. i remember one stone vigil i did long ago where i was nuking and i realized like 75% of way into dungeon the thm (lol) was spamming heals. and he was giving me shit for nuking saying he'd be able to do his job if i was doing mine.

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    But the only reason they didn't die was the ACN that should have been doing damage was healing...

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    If we're really talking about big dick DPS from low-level healers, then Cleric Stance/crossclass is not even a real rebuttal. The true OGs queue with CS+Protect, turn on CS and cast Protect, then replace them both with Aero/Stoneskin.

    get at me bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    If we're really talking about big dick DPS from low-level healers, then Cleric Stance/crossclass is not even a real rebuttal. The true OGs queue with CS+Protect, turn on CS and cast Protect, then replace them both with Aero/Stoneskin.

    get at me bro
    Ohh, shit I didn't think of that. I had a Sastasha over the weekend on AST and I swapped in Prot for the cast, then swapped it out to have Cleric's. I did not even occur to me that I could turn it on, swap the skill out and just leave it on the whole time. Dang. I could've had Aero!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    But the only reason they didn't die was the ACN that should have been doing damage was healing...
    My point exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luthia View Post
    Yeah, its not like essential dignity has a cast time, Lol. ACN/THM/BLM/SMN who cast heals are the worst IMO.
    Physick spam from a BLM and SMN saved us from a wipe on T7 once. But yea that's a very specific situation.

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    I've personally healed a DFR Titan HM on BLM with physicks because both healers got knocked off by landslide.

    But that aside, from personal experience, I find the likelihood that the ACN was just being a pansy and healing early, and/or that the AST reacted to the fact the ACN was healing by just continuing to DPS.

    On top of all of that, ACN does fuckawful damage at that level, anyways, AST in cleric does more (Malefic is a 150 potency spam compared to ACN's 80, and Cleric is a straight 10% boost). So you probably cleared faster anyways.

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    Thread working as intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyHobo View Post
    I've personally healed a DFR Titan HM on BLM with physicks because both healers got knocked off by landslide.

    But that aside, from personal experience, I find the likelihood that the ACN was just being a pansy and healing early, and/or that the AST reacted to the fact the ACN was healing by just continuing to DPS.
    I've also healed dungeon bosses on blm when our healer died. Do what you gotta do sometimes.

    ACN wasn't healing early, it was get healed or die, I had 15 HP at one point with 20 mobs on me.

    I'm glad this trainwreck of a guildhest spawned a conversation at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    Ohh, shit I didn't think of that. I had a Sastasha over the weekend on AST and I swapped in Prot for the cast, then swapped it out to have Cleric's. I did not even occur to me that I could turn it on, swap the skill out and just leave it on the whole time. Dang. I could've had Aero!
    How did you not think of it? It's been discussed since I was still playing a year ago and it was already old hat even then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    How did you not think of it? It's been discussed since I was still playing a year ago and it was already old hat even then.
    Yeah, I know. It's not new to me either, but I generally don't play healers (I'm only leveling AST to get everything to 60) so it wasn't anywhere near the forefront of my mind.

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    In Pharos Hard, room before last boss:

    Tank 1v1 an add, NIN try to blow up incubator.
    I motion for the tank to grab wall adds.
    I get ignored.
    Adds swarm us, wipe.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tank
    (Rand Hammir) If you wait till they all spawn you can take them out one group at a time.
    NOOOOOO YOU GRAB THEM ALL TO REDUCE THE ENCOUNTERS NEEDED BY 2 GROUPS!!!

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    Whenever someone complains that healers shouldn't use Cleric Stance in party.


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    I haven't seen people do this in ages.


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    I haven't seen people do this in ages.
    When was the last time you used DF? This is the only thing I see ppl do (and then complain that they lose hate when I multi-dot).

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    That's only ok in PvP when you are a caster or healer trying to stay above the melee LB threshold lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3.141592 View Post
    When was the last time you used DF? This is the only thing I see ppl do (and then complain that they lose hate when I multi-dot).
    You see that's a DRG, not a tank, right? I don't think a DPS would be complaining about losing hate.

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