Random Fail: your words are false

[Niiro]

Giants will stop and pewpew random comets/people regardless of hate while you're trying to move them.

[Edelweiss]

I think this goes here ...
Doing a CT on my iLVL 80 PLD and get to KB without issue. Nobody wants to MT so I offer, ready check and go, pull KB to the west wall like I have done 20-25 times before. SCH tosses me a few heals but thinks the WHM has me covered, WHM just flat out ignores me. After a wipe and reset this happens:

Basically pitched a fit and said if I pull it west they will sit outside and not heal me. Never seen someone act like that, even in CT

For what it's worth, Lina Inverse (Lalafell F, Midgardsormr) is an absolutely insufferable cunt of a person; i'd auto-bail if you're unfortunate enough to land with her in any DF (let alone pre-made party) again.

I've never met a more unpleasant individual; they essentially refused to do even the most minor of helpful things (like picking up Oils following Tonberry kills, or getting a single Device) and took offense to any kind of discussion of what the fuck we're going to do. Dealing with their bullshit for a Roulette WP once was enough, nevermind anything that might require some brain cells.

Never fucking again.

[Pruviant]

I'm not saying it has to be tanked to the west, I have done it both ways. What pissed me off is being hung out to dry by my healer and looking like an asshat to the other 2 groups in the alliance because she wanted to do it her way. That being said, if she would have just said "Hey brah, I'm more comfortable with it on the N wall", I would have been more than happy to do that. Just don't throw me under the bus in the meantime.

[orinthia]

Vote kick.

Just don't be that guy and announce you're doing it.

[Carraway]

The most ideal thing would be 1 tank, 2 healer, 1 good ranged DPS (BLM is ideal) on pad, everyone else on Atomos. But if you have like 2 SMN 2 SCH on pad adds takes forever to die sometimes.

Also yeah PLDs who don't stunlock the succubi need to die in a fire.

Everyone's already talked about what's safe and what's best in a PUG/mixed group, but the real most ideal strat is all 4 DPS on Atomos, tanks and healers DPSing adds, then go AFK on the platform for 5 minutes while the other two groups finish.

[Andradi]

How exactly do you get the adds to the platform in that case? I know normal ranged attacks don't reach, maybe provoke does?

[Skai]

Yeah, you're guaranteed to finish first since you'll be locking out another group from Atomos, lol.

[Seravi Edalborez]

How exactly do you get the adds to the platform in that case? I know normal ranged attacks don't reach, maybe provoke does?

If I pop a heal as adds spawn I pull hate. So I'd guess you just have them dragged over that way then shieldbashstunlockhealerdeeps to death.

[Carraway]

How exactly do you get the adds to the platform in that case? I know normal ranged attacks don't reach, maybe provoke does?

As indicated above, medica 2/regen/embrace/whispering dawn/etc.

[Rocl]

Yeah, you're guaranteed to finish first since you'll be locking out another group from Atomos, lol.

huh? 2 healers + 2 tanks = 4 people = atomos is unlocked for the other group

[Skai]

Yeah forgot you can pull with straight enmity via method Carraway posted.

That actually sounds awesome. Gonna have to try it.

[Raldo]

Yeah, two tanks totally sound like they can down the adds before the adds start piling up... yeah. I would love to know how that goes for you.

[Ferien]

haha I always see Gods Wrath's PF comment for T4; /angrytext for EXP'd and one shot yet I'll see him trying to do it for a couple of days

I think my favorite T4 run was when we (e: we being the rest of us who joined the PUG...I don't think I've ever run BC with you =x) kicked Gods Wrath from his own party and proceeded to oneshot it.

[OWS_Tonx]

That has to be the worst, getting kicked from your own PF after making dickish comments. Someone had a pic in one of these fail threads of a PF comment about Titan EX "must have weapon and show as proof, i 87, blah blah" kinda shit and when they que'd ifrit the leader didn't have access lol

[Elcura]

Yeah, two tanks totally sound like they can down the adds before the adds start piling up... yeah. I would love to know how that goes for you.

Why are you assuming that only the tanks are attacking?

[Skai]

Because healers are not supposed to DPS, duh!

[Raldo]

Yeah yeah, omitted the healers. The sarcasm-laden statement still stands after you include the healers. I guess you might be able to pull it off if you're all geared to the teeth, but it doesn't seem worth it.

For maximum speed, you should also not use the limit break on the Bone Dragon, so you can use it on Atomos. I hope you enjoy that extra minute or so standing around doing nothing waiting on the other teams to finish.

[Elcura]

Yeah yeah, omitted the healers. The sarcasm-laden statement still stands after you include the healers.

No, it really doesn't. It's called Cleric Stance, maybe you should check it out sometime. Or you can continue to stubbornly deny it works because...well I don't know, ignorance?

[Raldo]

Wait, what? I think you're reading my mistaken neglect to mention healers as some sort of larger ploy of hating on healer damage. I didn't mention the healers because they should've already been doing damage, so there's no change on that front.

I'm merely questioning the ability of two tanks and two healers to be able to take down the adds before they pile up. I would love to be wrong, but I just can't see it right now.

[Rocl]

I honestly can't imagine them failing as the adds have like no fucking HP.

I also can't rationalize using LB on Bone Dragon instead of Atomos either.