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  1. #1361
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejet View Post
    Bb can crit for 1600+ at i90
    I certainly hope you're referring to Coil or EX with a bunch of Echo.

  2. #1362
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    With buffs you don't need echo for that. Again on war idk I go mrd to most things because if we are fucking around why not. Also It's a 280 potency attack... Its stronger then flair is. Think about that .

    No we are not nuts, we have not even thought about bcob2 with this .
    Yet to do ifirt with it or turn 5. Outside that everything before it we have war/mrd burned.

    As an FYI most our wars are full i90 with allagan accessories for dd.and outside two people who play it for real as tanks we all have extra points in str. After our large house will have most likely 3 or 4 wars /mrds with i90 fully melded for dd. And as someone said a well played mrd can easily out damage your normal df dd.

    Your never going to out dd anything but maybe a blm or bard singing who knows their job. But it makes things far more fun.

    Edits due to shitty phone typing.

  3. #1363
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    DRG in full i90 don't hit Full Thrusts that high (330 potency) with enhanced B4B, Heavy thrust, Disembowel, and Life Surge for the guaranteed crit.

  4. #1364
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    Enhanced B4B is 30%, Heavy Thrust is 15%, Disembowel is -10% res; basically 330 x 1.661 = 548.13. However Berserk is 50%, Maim is 20%, and Storm's Eye is -10% res; basically 280x2=560. So warrior has the higher potential for top damage if they're in full str accessories. If you go marauder for Raging Strikes and B4B, it'd be even more damage.

  5. #1365
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    I'd still like to see an SS of that.

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    I honestly can't imagine it doing that much without marauder, full str accessories, full buffs, and a str pot.

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    I'll try to remember to ss it next time. But its not like we do this Evey day. Also like I said I do go mrd.

    I stated in my post this. So you need to factor in raging strikes and such.

  8. #1368
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    Joined a PF Titan EX last night. Wiped 4 times, 3 of which before echo even got applied. Once we finally get it, I lagspike and eat Landslide after first tank swap, then on the next attempt 90k as soon as gaols go down. I'm never going to clear this fucking fight.

  9. #1369
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    Tbh I'm wondering why so many people are still doing EX primals now that Levi is out.

    Other than Dual Haken I don't see a pressing need for any of the EX weapons.

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    Perhaps you underestimate the number of people who were never able to complete the EX primals w/o the echo.

    Also, unless you need accuracy, Dual Haken isn't that great (Zenith has more parry).

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    Hmmm .... Am I missing something here? (spoilered for huge)

    Spoiler: show

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    Boosting his iLv to get in a PF group and forgot to switch back? Maybe left it on so his HP wasn't so suspect.

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    ilvl bump? laziness? it looks like some form of garuda so who cares rly

  14. #1374
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    Also, unless you need accuracy, Dual Haken isn't that great (Zenith has more parry).
    Which is why people used Dual Haken over relic.

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    Used being the key word there. Specifically speaking about the here and now (as you just were), the only WARs that crave accuracy are those running coil2 and those people can spend their soldiery to fix it up.

    Main WAR here; I've never owned a Dual Haken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    Used being the key word there. Specifically speaking about the here and now (as you just were), the only WARs that crave accuracy are those running coil2 and those people can get Allagan Battleaxe.
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Tbh I'm wondering why so many people are still doing EX primals now that Levi is out. Other than Dual Haken I don't see a pressing need for any of the EX weapons.
    Unless you're like me, who has access to Levi Ex and for the life of me can't consistently get it right. Yes, I know. I really think I'm missing something.

  18. #1378
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Tbh I'm wondering why so many people are still doing EX primals now that Levi is out.
    Alts, needing some accs for i90 accuracy, ponies.

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    Is the droprate for the Garuda, Ifrit, Titan EX ponies as terrible as Levi's? I'd like Garuda's pony, but I really don't want to farm it if it's that terrible.

  20. #1380
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    I'd be surprised if anyone compiled information but I'd imagine all the mounts are equal.

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