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  1. #1781
    Old Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airenn View Post
    Also, you can make things smaller in the HUD layout by using CNTL+Home I think.
    I made most of them bigger is the problem :D Bad eyes.

  2. #1782
    Nidhogg
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    FLIP TABLE

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    Chram
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    Subjective. Whatever setup works for you, it's all good.

    I know you don't like mines but it works for me.

    Spoiler: show


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    Bagel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skai View Post
    Subjective. Whatever setup works for you, it's all good.

    I know you don't like mines but it works for me.

    Spoiler: show

    I like to keep things in the middle of my screen too.

  5. #1785
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    That's pretty similar to mine but I don't hide hotbars cuz I'm a hoarder irl so the clutter makes me feel at home

    rarely ever do i need to see my feet anyways!

  6. #1786
    Old Odin
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    I see my feet just fine though. #notlalafellproblems.

  7. #1787
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    Got kicked from a SR Brayflox group. For having DL pants while rest was full ilvl 90 and 1 i100 accessory. And doing obviously superior DPS than my fellow DPS member in the group having sustaining 1300-1500+ DPS on trash and doing roughly 10% more than the i92 Bard on bosses.
    Run went abit slow so.. apparently it's my fault the run is going slow. People sure are clueless in this game. Just joined another Brayflox SR but people just dumb.
    First time I've ever been kicked from a SR, but for everything is a first time.

  8. #1788
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    So...T8. My new group is just at the edge of clearing it (we've done it once now, but not this week...) Tonight, the tank wasn't able to grab hate consistently on the dreadknights, leading to them murdering us repeatedly. We all assumed it was the healer pulling hate, but I decided to check the parse log...I think I found the problem.


  9. #1789
    Old Odin
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    Maybe I'm not seeing it, is it the raw Halone after voke>lob?

  10. #1790
    Bagel
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    I don't see it either. Super quick test without shield oath or fight or flight gives these enmity values for 1 use of the skill.

    lob 483
    flash 666
    raw halone 785

    The only problem I see is using too many off-gcd and thus losing gcd and I wouldn't use shield swipe on the dread.

  11. #1791
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    Yeah, the raw Halone. Last time I looked at numbers, combo'd is worth something like 2.5x enmity, no? Every pull, every dread. Uncomboed. Several times he queued up the combo then tossed it away with Shield Lob.

  12. #1792
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    Tell me how to keep the combo active while still pulling with shield lob. That sequence should not lose hate - tell the WHM to stop using Medica2 right before dread, or the SCH to not pop whispering dawn or something.

  13. #1793
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    Haven't been in T8 yet, but is it impossible to anticipate the appearance of the Dreadnought and hit it with a charged RoH before it starts moving? If that isn't possible, there isn't much else the OT could do; in such situations, I start off with RoH myself to get a little headstart on hate, then build up the first combo. SW, CoD and FB sometimes just don't suffice, though that's also a matter of equipment.

    The only thing I'd question is the Provoke-pull; I can see it being useful if a healer builds up more hate than a Shield Lob would net, but outside of that scenario, they'd be better off waiting for the first person to pull ahead and then use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lepetit89 View Post
    Haven't been in T8 yet
    Your entire comment fits in the thread because you don't understand the standard positioning and the fact that it pops more than 15y away.

    There is a way to lead with combo halone, but the timing is very precise (taking advantage of animation delay before damage/threat lands) and would likely require different tower sequence to accommodate a 180deg flip for the group.

    The only real advice I can give for the other guy is DONT pull Avatar with FoF, because it won't be back up in time for the first dread if spiking hate is an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dammerung View Post
    Your entire comment fits in the thread because you don't understand the standard positioning and the fact that it pops more than 15y away.
    Which is precisely why I chose to ask a question instead of acting like I'm stating precise facts in regard to the very situation in T8. Thank you for the explanation, though.

  16. #1796
    BG's most likeable Québécois
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    was watching random XIV stream yesterday and caught someone streaming on PS3 and using ingame keyboard

    1) easiest username password ever
    2) He didn't use 1 time password


    3) At least i was gentle to tell him?

  17. #1797
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qeomash View Post
    Yeah, the raw Halone. Last time I looked at numbers, combo'd is worth something like 2.5x enmity, no? Every pull, every dread. Uncomboed. Several times he queued up the combo then tossed it away with Shield Lob.
    Not too big of a fail. Save FoF for dreads, don't use medica II before a dread pop, problem solved. I ran a curtana zenith paladin through t8 vs. i100 dps and healers and he had no problems with threat with shield lob->fast blade.

    Not using provoke to pull and having spirits within ready are things that can help but that's ticky-tacky stuff.

  18. #1798
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qeomash View Post
    Yeah, the raw Halone. Last time I looked at numbers, combo'd is worth something like 2.5x enmity, no?
    Halone is a x4 enmity mod, mod isn't effected by combo, only the potency.

  19. #1799
    Ridill
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    Yeah I do T8 as WAR which has much better options for grabbing quick hate I think (provoke -> some DEF CD -> tomahawk -> some DEF CD -> steel cyclone -> some DEF CD -> start combo) SC is really nice for spike hate.

    But yeah you can either raw halone it, which is fine (I don't bother to raw BB it), or do something like voke > lob > flash > SW + CoS > start combo.

    Also, stop casting medica or WD right before a dread. That's bad.

    Edit: Random Fail for us

    This week, out of spite, both of our MNKs took Dragon Kick off of their hotbars so neither one of them could edge out the other. Made me laugh, but their DPS sucked lol, something like 400 even for both of them.

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    lol, that's hilarious. The couple of times I've went MNK I just play off the other guy and let him Dragon Kick too.

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