Congress threatening to shutdown unless ACA is defunded/repealed immediately.

**kuronosan** · 2013-10-24 12:08

Originally Posted by thetruepandagod

I handle 2 medical offices and all that entails. One of which is a derm office the other being a family run hospital. Mostly boring clerk work involving me dealing with insurance companies. Fitness be hobby.

g4u

That's great. So what is your title? What do you actually do?

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2013-10-24 12:22

My dad was a hospital administrator for many years. Theda Clark in Appleton, WI. True story.

also ksandy you just need one of those kiddie pools with a diagnostic array built in. duh. wal mart carries them.

**Drex** · 2013-10-24 12:22

Originally Posted by Serra

Just turned on Nightly News and the opening story is about how they're delaying the date that people need to have health care by as much as 6 weeks. So it's sounding like you don't need to start the application process till March 31st now.

those racist teabagger terrorists are subverting our democracy again to undermine Obama's legacy or whatever? won't they just leave the aca alone?

oh its Democrats up for reelection in 2014. and they're "red state democrats" and blue dogs. thank goodness no true democrat would support this nonsense.

you cant make this up.

**Serra** · 2013-10-24 12:23

Originally Posted by Alarial

So most of the people I debate with about the ACA know almost nothing about it and are just going off their Fox News talking points.

One thing however that has come up in discussion that seems relevant/concerning for me is the fact that some employers are cutting back hours to below 30 to avoid the mandate. This puts a double strain on people working part time as they now have to get insurance AND are making less money.

Are there any counters to this? Or is it just a real (and very shitty) loophole?

It is a loophole, but as has been mentioned, the ACA is really just being used as a scapegoat for it atm. Also, I've heard the number of companies that are actually doing it are not nearly as large as some make it out to be -- although I can't remember where (most likely either on the Daily Show or Nightly News).

**Serra** · 2013-10-24 12:25

Originally Posted by Drex

those racist teabagger terrorists are subverting our democracy again to undermine Obama's legacy or whatever? won't they just leave the aca alone?

oh its Democrats up for reelection in 2014. and they're "red state democrats" and blue dogs. thank goodness no true democrat would support this nonsense.

you cant make this up.

Wut..? The deadline is being delayed because of the computer problems.. And technically its both up for reelection, although I'd argue that it's more the republicans since its the entire house and just 1/3 of the members of the senate..

**tyven** · 2013-10-24 12:32

It's being delayed because under current law mofos would have to register by mid feb. mid feb != March 31. They are aligning sign up dates with penatly dates

**Serra** · 2013-10-24 14:17

Originally Posted by tyven

It's being delayed because under current law mofos would have to register by mid feb. mid feb != March 31. They are aligning sign up dates with penatly dates

I was under the impression they are delaying it because the generous estimates are that it is going to take a month to get the website in a useable form..

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2013-10-24 14:59

Originally Posted by Zealot

In the midst of my energy policy research I came across the numbers on how much big oil (Shell, Exxon-Mobil, Sonoco, BP, and Chevron) made last quarter. Combined, they posted profits of $19.5B. There was one article that said "oil companies continue to post record profits." Then there was a FoxNews article that said "oil profits down from last quarter, oil companies suffering." Felt worth mentioning.

(also, that's $19.5B quarterly, not annual)

fair and balanced

**Meresgi** · 2013-10-25 07:49

Originally Posted by Zealot

In the midst of my energy policy research I came across the numbers on how much big oil (Shell, Exxon-Mobil, Sonoco, BP, and Chevron) made last quarter. Combined, they posted profits of $19.5B. There was one article that said "oil companies continue to post record profits." Then there was a FoxNews article that said "oil profits down from last quarter, oil companies suffering." Felt worth mentioning.

(also, that's $19.5B quarterly, not annual)

I don't see anything wrong with this. Only communists would complain!

**SamanosukeShiva** · 2013-10-26 07:24

**archibaldcrane** · 2013-10-26 17:36

When the fuck is that idiot from the Young Turks going to change his name? YOU'RE A MEDIA FIGURE, STOP MAKING IT HARD TO TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.

**Mazmaz** · 2013-10-26 18:58

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

When the fuck is that idiot from the Young Turks going to change his name? YOU'RE A MEDIA FIGURE, STOP MAKING IT HARD TO TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.

white people

**Correction** · 2013-10-26 19:22

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

When the fuck is that idiot from the Young Turks going to change his name? YOU'RE A MEDIA FIGURE, STOP MAKING IT HARD TO TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.

It's the Young Turks. If his name were Edward R. Mothafuckin Murrow I still wouldn't take his ass seriously. Also lol@ 'media figure.' He's a goddamn video blogger, a wannabe Jon Stewart without a shred of the talent.

**Clash Perez** · 2013-10-26 22:01

Seriously, why is he being so ethnic.

**Ksandra** · 2013-10-26 22:07

Speaking of Jon Stewart:

After bragging in a TV interview that the state's Voter ID regulations would "kick the Democrats in the butt," and after making reference to "lazy blacks that want the government to give them everything," a North Carolina conservative activist has stepped down from his Republican Party post.

Don Yelton made the decision to leave after the Buncome County GOP asked him to resign his position as a precinct chairman, according to the Asheville Citizen-Times. Yelton made the comments on Wednesday's edition of Jon Stewart's The Daily Show on television, setting off a firestorm of reaction in social media land.

Yelton told the Citizen-Times that in spite of the circumstances, he would not change anything, and he refused to apologize.

"There's nothing I said that I would take back – so be it," Yelton told the news organization.

Voter ID laws, which require would-be voters to present identification when registering to vote and/or when voting, have been criticized as damaging to Democratic voters who are more likely not to have identification.

"The law is going to kick the Democrats in the butt," Yelton told Daily Show correspondent Aasif Mandvi. "If it hurts a bunch of college kids too lazy to get up off their bohonkas and go get a photo ID, so be it. If it hurts a bunch of whites, so be it."

Yelton also said, "If it hurts a bunch of lazy blacks that want the government to give them everything, so be it."

The Buncombe County GOP released a statement via Facebook denouncing Yelton's comments, calling them "outrageous and intolerant" and indicating North Carolina Republican Party Chairman Claude Pope was calling for Yelton's resignation.

"The North Carolina Republican Party finds the comments made by Mr. Yelton to be completely inappropriate and highly offensive," the statement read. "I would like to make it very clear that Mr. Yelton does not speak for either the Buncombe County Republcan Party or the North Carolina Republican Party."

Buncombe County GOP chairman Henry Mitchell echoed those comments, according to Politico.

"Let me make it very clear, Mr. Yelton's comments do not reflect the belief or feelings of Buncombe Republcians, nor do they mirror any core principle that our party is founded upon," Mitchell said in a statement. "this mentality will not be supported or propagated within our party."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...signs/3184993/

**Serra** · 2013-10-27 02:17

Of course they had to ask him to resign. Can't have people out there admitting that the laws are meant to disenfranchise voters so that Republicans can win elections -- gotta maintain the lie that it's about fighting voter fraud.

**ringthree** · 2013-10-28 11:24

Originally Posted by Serra

Of course they had to ask him to resign. Can't have people out there admitting that the laws are meant to disenfranchise voters so that Republicans can win elections -- gotta maintain the lie that it's about fighting voter fraud.

Notice they only talked about what he said, not the policy that was justifying what he said.

**Esvedium** · 2013-10-28 12:13

They can't let people know that he was just uncouthly expressing what the policy is doing.

**quannum** · 2013-10-28 12:50

it shouldn't be news, but oh well.

**Callisto** · 2013-10-28 17:27

I wonder if the guy thought "The Daily Show is satire, I'll just say something absurd and sarcastic and everyone will think it's hilarious and that I'm a super-hip guy" and just had really terrible execution

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