Congress threatening to shutdown unless ACA is defunded/repealed immediately.

[ringthree]

I just want the Clinton plan back. /sigh

[hey]

So, instead of a 3.8% medicare tax on wealthy people's investments...they want virtually everyone to pay more, tax up employer-provided health care, and think that "shopping around" for tests and scans and leaving "what is necessary" up to a patient's bank account instead of a doctor's recommendation is the path to cost cutting.

Because you all remember that price sheet the doctor gives you when he asks what blood tests you want at your physical, right?

I'm glad they finally put a proposal on paper so everyone can see how batshit retarded their "alternative" is.

Seriously, good luck figuring out what anything is going to cost before you get the bill.

[Surealistic]

i want MY AMERICA back, not the republicans version, not the tea parties version, but george washington and thomas jeffersons version. stop incumbents from screwing us over (im looking at you mitch mcconnel) get religion out of government, AND FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS- PLEASE START THINKING OF THE COUNTRY INSTEAD OF YOUR OWN FUCKING POCKETS

[Athas]

Your caps lock key seems to have broken.

You may want to address this issue.

[archibaldcrane]

I too want the America back where I could own slaves and get to vote because I'm a white male landowner.

[Pirian]

I too want the America back where I could own slaves and get to vote because I'm a white male landowner.

'dems be the days

Spoiler: show

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/b3/b3bf0...e54c86afb3.jpg

[Serra]

i want MY AMERICA back, not the republicans version, not the tea parties version, but george washington and thomas jeffersons version. stop incumbents from screwing us over (im looking at you mitch mcconnel) get religion out of government, AND FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS- PLEASE START THINKING OF THE COUNTRY INSTEAD OF YOUR OWN FUCKING POCKETS

As someone who studies incumbency, I can tell you that incumbents have been more likely to win elections since the second congress.. so yeah......

Just sayin~

[BaneTheBrawler]

I too want the America back where I could own slaves and get to vote because I'm a white male landowner.

kind of a mixed bag for me. on the one hand, slaves and votes. on the other, death by diarrhea.

[Callisto]

kind of a mixed bag for me. on the one hand, slaves and votes. on the other, death by diarrhea.

I work next door to a Hardee's, this is pretty much already a foregone conclusion for me.

[SamanosukeShiva]

Jon Stewart did damn good interview with Nancy Pelosi about corruption and role of money in politic.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/80...t-let-it-stand

Just in time for the next debt ceiling hostage taking 1 month from now.

[archibaldcrane]

I love when he suggested he should ask the senate minority leader when she said she didn't know something.

[Meresgi]

I hated in that interview how she just kept trying to make it out as if money and lobbyists arnt fucking up both sides of the aisle and the entire system. It was a lot of "Well the repubs love to take that money, but us Demos dont!"...bullshit. There are a few i'm sure on both sides that don't take a piece of that pie, but so many fucking do on either side. So fucking sick of this "The other side is the problem waaah wahh!" system. Wish we had 3+ parties....

[Waraji]

So that we had a 3rd party to bitch about? Hmm.

[djzombie]

We need to remove money from politics, but that will never happen. So I think it's time to burn it all down instead.

It should be fucking treason to take money(and any other gifts or gratuities) from lobbyists/corporate interests/pretty much anyone, if you're a politician. But again, that will never happen, so grab your torches instead.

[Meresgi]

So that we had a 3rd party to bitch about? Hmm.

So the other 2 parties have someone to bitch about. Maybe if they can both bitch about the same thing....fuck who am I kidding. With our politicians there now it would be just a fucking royal rumble free for all, with lobbyists throwing cash into the ring.

[ringthree]

I hated in that interview how she just kept trying to make it out as if money and lobbyists arnt fucking up both sides of the aisle and the entire system. It was a lot of "Well the repubs love to take that money, but us Demos dont!"...bullshit. There are a few i'm sure on both sides that don't take a piece of that pie, but so many fucking do on either side. So fucking sick of this "The other side is the problem waaah wahh!" system. Wish we had 3+ parties....

I agreed with Waraji. A third party is just a panacea. Why would a third party be any different than the other two? They still need money to participate in politics. Why would a third party not care about maintain power once they gain power? It is really easy to wish for this imaginary third party because it doesn't exist and never will. The reason we have two parties is because of the winner-take-all system of government we have, not because of money, or lobbying or anything else.

[Kerberoz]

A third party would just split the votes of one of the original two parties, letting the other win uncontested.

[djzombie]

Can we just no longer consent to be governed? That works right?

Just about to ragequit life lol. My shitty job just cut my hours by half to avoid paying part time employees health insurance. That is certainly making things better for me. Still no health insurance, now with half the work hours! Fuckin gg.

[Serra]

Doesn't the employer mandate not start till like 2015?

[djzombie]

Not really sure, have not kept up with the legislation at all. My job has cut hours of part time employees nationwide by half already though, from what I've read, and seen based on my own and other part-timers schedules.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/sapna/staple...d-of-obamacare
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch...uts-at-staples
http://consumerist.com/2014/01/10/is...ealthcare-act/

Yeah, I work at staples as a pc repair tech, yeah I did say it was a crappy job. Just doing it part time while I finish my programming degree. Still though, even being already part time and shitty wages, this has cut my previously shitty paychecks in half.

And to be clear, no I don't blame the legislation. I blame the company I work at for being so god damned shitty that they would cut hours instead of provide health insurance for employees. I guess it was to be expected though. Mandate health insurance for people at 30+ hours a week, just hire twice as many people at 15-20 hours a week and no worries man.

And yea that article mentions the mandate doesn't start til 2015.

Ah I see this is why employers are preemptively fucking their employees:

Because fines in 2015 will be based on staffing levels in the second half of 2014 — at the latest — employers have little time to adjust.

http://news.investors.com/politics-o...#ixzz2sWVrIA3W