SE (temp)banning accounts with mad gil.

[Deadgye]

Normal Rich player has=500k

Hah, how out of touch you are.

[Fievel]

Even if players earned their gil the legitimate way it doesn't take away from the fact that they now have an inflated amount of gil. You have to think of it like this.

Poor Players=50k
Normal Rich player has=500k
Inflated Gil Rich player has=8mil

The inflated gil was created by the RMT, the price of items was inflated by RMT, the RMT were trying to control the market to make items more expensive to force people to buy their gil. Once they were removed then said gil that legitimate players couldn't remain because then they would be controlling the market, so instead they had to reduce the sum of the gil to an amount that would be in balance to what poor players had so that they would not be able to control the market with the dirty money they have in hand.

While players might think they "earned" that 8 mil. The reality is they earned 50k for an item that should of been worth 10k and then overtime selling the same item for 10k and reaching said amount of gil due to RMT inflation. The players that earned the gil off the RMT's control of the market were riding on their coat tails and just because they were not RMT doesn't mean they should still in in control over an unbalanced amount of gil that was created through RMT activity.

Heck in 1.0 people exploited Atomos and earned million upon millions of gil through selling the crystals earned to an NPC for 20k, at the time I had 20 mil legitimately and didn't use said exploit, but a lot of people did and SE ended up reducing the amount of gil by one 0 decimal to remove all the gil that had been created through the Atomos exploit.

So much wrong about this post, so very much.

Even your last point is completely wrong, Atomos was not the reason they dropped our gil lol

[Hellfury]

Even if players earned their gil the legitimate way it doesn't take away from the fact that they now have an inflated amount of gil. You have to think of it like this.

Poor Players=50k
Normal Rich player has=500k
Inflated Gil Rich player has=8mil

The only way this would be remotely correct would be if you added "income per day" at the end of each sentence.

[Ratatapa]

So much wrong about this post, so very much.

Even your last point is completely wrong, Atomos was not the reason they dropped our gil lol

Didn't they announce the Gil nerf before atomos?

[blowfin]

Besides, I've yet to see a single person who got suspended come forward and admit to cheating.

There are plenty of people who bought gil that got caught up in this, don't be fooled. You're probably not reading in the right places, or between the right lines. Their general response turns out to be: "Meh, I had it coming".

We're hearing from the vocal minority of people who feel burnt, not the people who got rightfully suspended/equalised.

The only innocent parties appear to be people who've gone in early to dominate the crafting market. They probably do deserve a week free for their troubles. Having said that I'm not sure how people have the smarts to get in and dominate the market so early, and not realise (or claim ignorance) that the vast majority of the profit is going to come from RMT gil.

[Jakson]

The only way this would be remotely correct would be if you added "income per day" at the end of each sentence.

Maybe, but take a look over at the UI thread. Nearly everyone in that thread is sub 200k. I doubt anyone smart enough to make the kind of dough you're talking about would be dumb enough to not be saving some of that income, especially considering how perfectly acceptable non-buyable (so to speak, DL and whatnot) gear is.

[Hellfury]

Maybe, but take a look over at the UI thread. Nearly everyone in that thread is sub 200k. I doubt anyone smart enough to make the kind of dough you're talking about would be dumb enough to not be saving some of that income, especially considering how perfectly acceptable non-buyable (so to speak, DL and whatnot) gear is.

I can of course not speak for anyone else but most I know have significantly more. There wasn't too much to do in 1.0 except grind the same dungeons over and over again and gather/craft.

Personally, I keep most of my funds on my retainers, and before it was clear that they were merely redenominating, I moved significant amounts of gil to alternative characters. I for one would be reluctant to post a screenshot with my full networth out of sheer paranoia. I don't trust SEs token solution enough to make myself a target.

[ejact]

So since SE targeted some crafting moguls who might have sold to gil buyers in the first wave of suspensions and gil purge. How paranoid should I be that this guy http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/3949649/ bought the hq gryphonskin ring I had on the market board over the weekend.

[Syncness]

I still don't understand why SE removed the gil, but didn't reimburse players with the base mat or something, since they've lost the gil and items they sold (they may have paid for the base mats etc).

[Tarubaby]

I still don't understand why SE removed the gil, but didn't reimburse players with the base mat or something, since they've lost the gil and items they sold (they may have paid for the base mats etc).

Because they didn't actually do an investigation of what was bought and sold. Literally they used their blanket program to see who was connected to who (in terms of gilsellers/buyers), suspended us for a week, and used another blanket program to /100 our gil.

They can't give us our base matts back, otherwise they'd have to give us back 99% of everything we used, because they took 99% of what we had (gil wise).

[Hyan]

I can of course not speak for anyone else but most I know have significantly more. There wasn't too much to do in 1.0 except grind the same dungeons over and over again and gather/craft.

Sounds like a huge distinction has to be made between legacy and new servers.

[Hellfury]

Sounds like a huge distinction has to be made between legacy and new servers.

Valid point.

[Jem]

Didn't they announce the Gil nerf before atomos?

They did and it was why I stockpiled materia and sellables instead of gil. I kinda got lucky with the bans as I hadn't started selling it yet (felt that T4 prices would go up rather than down and I had like 200 cracked materia). If I had, I would have been fucked unless legacy servers weren't included in the sweep.

[Vuitton]

They did and it was why I stockpiled materia and sellables instead of gil. I kinda got lucky with the bans as I hadn't started selling it yet (felt that T4 prices would go up rather than down and I had like 200 cracked materia). If I had, I would have been fucked unless legacy servers weren't included in the sweep.

Was anyone on a legacy server caught up in this?

[Tarubaby]

S-E is deleting threads about this now in the official forums. Stay classy, most honorable Japanese company. We should be honored to give our gil back to save glorious Nippon.

[Hyan]

S-E is deleting threads about this now in the official forums. Stay classy, most honorable Japanese company. We should be honored to give our gil back to save glorious Nippon.

I would too. Why the fuck haven't these people quit yet? Man the fuck up and take your money elsewhere already.

[Lucavi]

I'd be gone if they destroyed my hard-earned work, especially after putting in such silly grinds like gathering. Capping the 40-50 in mining is just.... uuuuughhhhghhghghg....

[Waraji]

I'd be gone if they destroyed my hard-earned work, especially after putting in such silly grinds like gathering. Capping the 40-50 in mining is just.... uuuuughhhhghhghghg....

That shit is jokes with Gathering Leves, assuming you have a stack of 99. If not then.... uuuuughhhhghhghghg....

[Niiro]

DoL are still grindy as hell even with leves-a-plenty.

They're not broken like FATEs or crafting leves exp wise and they are sooooo fucking boring, even by MMO standards.

[Tyrath]

Fishing is fun and easy to level!

Too bad it makes no money :D