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  1. #261
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    There is a straight-up understandable mechanic to twisters; I'll probably do a framework write-up after the next FC or two kills it, but we'll have a video sometime within the next few days. However, as I said in my forum post and in the front page post, it is one of the most unforgivable mechanics I've seen in any MMORPG.

  2. #262
    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carraway View Post
    it is one of the most unforgivable mechanics I've seen in any MMORPG.
    fucking casuals

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    <3 CONGRATS GUYS

  3. #263
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    It would be nice if they'd give a brief rundown of how Twisters actually work. Most of us aren't going to spend 30 hours / week wiping to Twintania to figure out this horribly obscure mechanic.
    With that said, BG is known for it's dedication, not for being skilled (i.e. praising BC's encounter tuning, while in reality, it's difficulty is on par with normal WoW dungeons). I'm interested in finding out whether Twister is actually unforgiving, or it just seems unforgiving to them.

  4. #264
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    Shots fired

  5. #265
    Mr. Bananagrabber
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    That's right, the only people to kill it legit aren't skilled. Oy vey

  6. #266
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    That's right, the only people to kill it legit aren't skilled. Oy vey
    I'm just saying they have no notable achievements outside of FFXI/XIV, both of which are at the bottom of the skill chart and higher on the strategy/bashing head against walls charts.
    Again, I'll point you to their statement about ADS. Nobody who has experienced any real MMORPG PvE content (i.e. Sunwell in WoW) would consider anything in BC (barring maybe Twintania, once we figure out how Twister works) with any level of respect.

  7. #267
    WASTE OF CURRENCY
    I CAN'T I CAN'T I CAN'T

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    oh he mad

  8. #268
    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    fucking casuals
    I so fucking called this.

  9. #269
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsuper View Post
    My intangible MMO accomplishment is better than your intangible MMO accomplishment.
    Sounds like someone likes what you don't like.

    Congrats BG. Yay Excalibur!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsuper View Post
    I'm just saying they have no notable achievements outside of FFXI/XIV, both of which are at the bottom of the skill chart and higher on the strategy/bashing head against walls charts.
    Again, I'll point you to their statement about ADS. Nobody who has experienced any real MMORPG PvE content (i.e. Sunwell in WoW) would consider anything in BC (barring maybe Twintania, once we figure out how Twister works) with any level of respect.
    By that logic, since WOW is at the top of the skill chart, any of their guilds could have came over here and 1 shot coil.

    I always love how people complain about how easy ff 14 is, and respond with an actual number when I ask them how much they paid for their relic.

  11. #271
    filthy liars!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsuper View Post
    I'm just saying they have no notable achievements outside of FFXI/XIV, both of which are at the bottom of the skill chart and higher on the strategy/bashing head against walls charts.
    Again, I'll point you to their statement about ADS. Nobody who has experienced any real MMORPG PvE content (i.e. Sunwell in WoW) would consider anything in BC (barring maybe Twintania, once we figure out how Twister works) with any level of respect.
    I think someone is a little butthurt about not being world first

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsuper View Post
    I'm just saying they have no notable achievements outside of FFXI/XIV, both of which are at the bottom of the skill chart and higher on the strategy/bashing head against walls charts.
    Again, I'll point you to their statement about ADS. Nobody who has experienced any real MMORPG PvE content (i.e. Sunwell in WoW) would consider anything in BC (barring maybe Twintania, once we figure out how Twister works) with any level of respect.
    I was waiting for a post like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsuper View Post
    I'm just saying they have no notable achievements outside of FFXI/XIV, both of which are at the bottom of the skill chart and higher on the strategy/bashing head against walls charts.
    Again, I'll point you to their statement about ADS. Nobody who has experienced any real MMORPG PvE content (i.e. Sunwell in WoW) would consider anything in BC (barring maybe Twintania, once we figure out how Twister works) with any level of respect.
    That's just, like, your opinion man.

    Also emphasized the point where you hamstring yourself. So.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsuper View Post
    It would be nice if they'd give a brief rundown of how Twisters actually work. Most of us aren't going to spend 30 hours / week wiping to Twintania to figure out this horribly obscure mechanic.
    With that said, BG is known for it's dedication, not for being skilled (i.e. praising BC's encounter tuning, while in reality, it's difficulty is on par with normal WoW dungeons). I'm interested in finding out whether Twister is actually unforgiving, or it just seems unforgiving to them.
    I sense so much butthurt.
    How does it feel to shit on someone's accomplishment and pretend like you're somehow better? Have you beat Turn 5 yet OH WAIT YOU HAVEN'T.

  15. #275
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    Zsuper is pretty dead on accurate about coil, especially as a healer. Healing coil is incredibly boring, and I don't find it very difficult, it just requires teamwork from everyone mostly, except for healers, who just stand there and spam 1212121212121212 then move every once in a while to dodge line AOE. Turn5 might be different, though.

    I'm more upset with how boring coil is as a healer than it's difficulty really, they tuned encounters to hit so hard that I basically don't ever get to do anything but spam heals every GCD until we have ilvl 90 gear ; ;

    Congrats to bluegartr though! It's a good accomplishment, and I'm glad they did it. No reason to insult the guys. I'm curious to how twister works.

  16. #276
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    We still stand by our remarks that Turns 1-4 were tuned well for ilvl 70 gear. Of course, it's all easy now, and none of the mechanics were fundamentally complex beyond anything we've seen in other games, but we were absolutely pleasantly surprised by 2.0 out of the gate given our low expectations from 1.0.

    Unfortunately, I keep all of our members' resumes under lock-and-key like the Xavier Protocols, just in case one of them becomes Onslaught and tries to eat Franklin Richards.

  17. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsuper View Post
    It would be nice if they'd give a brief rundown of how Twisters actually work. Most of us aren't going to spend 30 hours / week wiping to Twintania to figure out this horribly obscure mechanic.
    With that said, BG is known for it's dedication, not for being skilled (i.e. praising BC's encounter tuning, while in reality, it's difficulty is on par with normal WoW dungeons). I'm interested in finding out whether Twister is actually unforgiving, or it just seems unforgiving to them.
    Just because you need to be quoted and laughed at again.

    Congrats BG Excal, glad to see the fight is winnable and I'm sure it will encourage a lot more people to actually try to win now rather than just wait until someone else has beaten it (my FC included).

  18. #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsuper View Post
    I'm just saying they have no notable achievements outside of FFXI/XIV, both of which are at the bottom of the skill chart and higher on the strategy/bashing head against walls charts.
    Again, I'll point you to their statement about ADS. Nobody who has experienced any real MMORPG PvE content (i.e. Sunwell in WoW) would consider anything in BC (barring maybe Twintania, once we figure out how Twister works) with any level of respect.
    Congratulations, you are THAT GUY.

    Cheers BG Excal. Go get that CPM.

  19. #279
    Mr. Bananagrabber
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carraway View Post
    just in case one of them becomes Onslaught and tries to eat Franklin Richards.
    Oh my. Not sure if I should be happy that I understand the reference.

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    Congrats!!!!!!!!

    Well done :D

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