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  1. #1141
    Old Odin
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    Not really, unless the stacks are still up when Twin returns. Then people with stacks on them are probably gonna die.

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    I handle small snakes during that phase and I position them so that I'm between them and Asclepius so that it gets the stacks but the other tank does not (because he's on the other side of Asclepius, out of range). Ideally no one other than the tank and maybe a physical DPS should be accumulating Disseminate stacks because tanks can survive Profusion or whatever it's called by using a buff even with 4 stacks, but anyone else will die. One dead DPS isn't a big deal, but three or four is going to make for a bad time. There have been a couple times where the small snakes died too slowly but we still killed Asclepius before Twintania returned. If one/no DPS have stacks, you can continue on. If several people have stacks (and there's really no reason for anyone outside physical DPS (who can just run away) to have stacks in the first place), you're pretty much done.

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    Justin Bieber
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    If you kill small snakes fast, the debuff will always wore before twin does thunderbolt. Alot of people thought it is better to split DPS on askle and small snakes, when it is actualy better to have everyone focus on small snakes, Askle is almost never an issue if small snakes dies.

  4. #1144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    The tank not standing in conflags harms the DPS more because the healers can't DPS it at all.
    I don't know if I necessarily agree with this; tanks may not put out big numbers, but I'm pretty sure they can still burst the conflag for more in a short period of time than a healer can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarice View Post
    I don't know if I necessarily agree with this; tanks may not put out big numbers, but I'm pretty sure they can still burst the conflag for more in a short period of time than a healer can.
    The tank doesn't need to be in the conflag to dps it. It's just taking extra damage to take extra damage.

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    Can you spare some gil?
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    I dare you to make less sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    I dare you to make less sense.
    Yep, pretty much my thoughts exactly.

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    Haha wat

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    I'm guessing he misunderstood and thought "going into the conflag" means standing in Firestream but not receiving Fetters?

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    The tank doesn't need to be in the conflag [for the healers] to dps it. It's just taking extra damage to take [deal] extra damage.
    this was my guess

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    With medi2/regen, tank is at a net positive (or tiny loss, can't remember) inside the conflag anyways *shrug*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    With medi2/regen, tank is at a net positive (or tiny loss, can't remember) inside the conflag anyways *shrug*
    Regen type auto wear off inside the conflag

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    I'm not so sure about that. I know for a fact at least Whispering Dawn does not.

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    I dont think it wear off too, whoever that goes in usually are always topped on HP as long as they were medica'd and regen'd before going in.

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    regen stays on and acts normally.

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    i was pretty sure rata was being more retarded than usual when he said that but i fell asleep during twin so i didnt get any first hand confirmation aside from my memory of past fights

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    i was pretty sure rata was being more retarded than usual when he said that but i fell asleep during twin so i didnt get any first hand confirmation aside from my memory of past fights
    When to recheck my videos was 100% sure Regen wore off automaticly when Conflag hit

    I was wrong like usual, carry on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    When to recheck my videos was 100% sure Regen wore off automaticly when Conflag hit

    I was wrong like usual, carry on
    Rata cannot stand anyone else taking his fail spotlight; move aside Hioki!

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    I only ever move in when both healers are trapped. Otherwise I stay outside and DPS the conflag. As a healer main I'd rather just do it myself on my tank than have them do it, they could be doing more important things, whereas I'd just be attacking Twin anyway if I wasn't on the conflag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    I only ever move in when both healers are trapped. Otherwise I stay outside and DPS the conflag. As a healer main I'd rather just do it myself on my tank than have them do it, they could be doing more important things, whereas I'd just be attacking Twin anyway if I wasn't on the conflag.
    Same. Only run in if both healers are trapped. There's literally no need to have the tank run in.

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