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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    No damage on the tanks, people dodge easier with fewer mobs in the area, can get four stacks on Asclepius instead of 2, etc.

    Whatever works is whatever works. And it does work, every time--if you don't mess up. Certainly not changing the strategy now.
    He always has 4 stacks when we do it o.o

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    Yea we never have a problem with the stacks either. Kiting just seeks odd to me and my group did try it for awhile. Whatever works for you guys though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelenae View Post
    Why do people kite anyways? My group kills the first snake then get the second snake low enough to kill it on the first divebomb. Kill it. Get as much dps on main snake while dodging then lb the next 2 adds then kill the main snake with 10 seconds left tell twin comes down. Just wondering the reasoning people kite them.
    I assume they just have subpar healers. I one tank turn 5 and don't kite anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Jorildyn View Post
    Man that is some complicated stuff for something relatively simple.
    We've done it a billion times, refining things until we hit something that works 99.9% of the time. Its easier than it sounds, but on paper, yeah.

    With our 1 tank strat, its a bit different as tank basically just eats everything up for the first 20 seconds, kites during divebomb, then eats everything again. Big heals on tank, big Deeps on adds, bigger deeps on big snake, move the fuck on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelenae View Post
    Why do people kite anyways? My group kills the first snake then get the second snake low enough to kill it on the first divebomb. Kill it. Get as much dps on main snake while dodging then lb the next 2 adds then kill the main snake with 10 seconds left tell twin comes down. Just wondering the reasoning people kite them.
    Same thing can be said here, why bother killing the mini-snakes before lb? We barely dot them during divebombs and just focus Asclep, then finish all of them at once. Different strokes for different folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judai View Post
    Same thing can be said here, why bother killing the mini-snakes before lb? We barely dot them during divebombs and just focus Asclep, then finish all of them at once. Different strokes for different folks.
    The important hing is that all 5 are dead before twin comes back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    The important hing is that all 5 are dead before twin comes back!
    Good point. I just find kiting the snakes around kinda wacky o.o. Well.... my group kills turn 1 kinda wacky as well. We just kill one snake then kite the other lol. Been doing that since launch. Our dps is so high now we just feed it one slime before split.

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    Thinks kiting snakes in Turn 5 is weird.... Kites Caduceus clone....

    Y'all need to recognize that all we are doing is using the bg kill group general strat and slightly modifying it. Nothing super unique here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    Thinks kiting snakes in Turn 5 is weird.... Kites Caduceus clone....

    Y'all need to recognize that all we are doing is using the bg kill group general strat and slightly modifying it. Nothing super unique here.
    I was implying that i shouldnt judge other people strategies when we do strange stuff as well.

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    Feed one slime before split. Straight tank both. Why kite?

    Hell, we've been doing this since most of us were probably ilvl 75.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Feed one slime before split. Straight tank both. Why kite?

    Hell, we've been doing this since most of us were probably ilvl 75.
    This. I didn't know people kited... I figured everyone dual-straight tanked. One healer per tank. Regen the runners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Feed one slime before split. Straight tank both. Why kite?

    Hell, we've been doing this since most of us were probably ilvl 75.
    We actually just stopped feeding slimes all together. It wastes like 10 whole seconds feeding it!

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    Kite Caduceus the same reason you kite Hygeia

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    Because you're bored, I guess?

    If you're not gonna feed a slime to Caduceus why even bother killing both splits? Just let it recombine. Heal two tanks at 5-6 stacks or one tank at 8 with both healers.

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    Current group kites snakes; pretty easy. Previous groups didn't kite snakes; pretty easy. It's one of those things where if you've always done it that way, and it's still easy / efficient, there's no need to rock the boat.

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    kiting is much easier now with the server lag/refresh rate hotfixes they implemented, was possible before, but lag would get you wrecked if you were the kiter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    Because you're bored, I guess?

    If you're not gonna feed a slime to Caduceus why even bother killing both splits? Just let it recombine. Heal two tanks at 5-6 stacks or one tank at 8 with both healers.
    As any summoner or bard player will tell you, don't feed+two targets to DoT = glorious dps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    Because you're bored, I guess?

    If you're not gonna feed a slime to Caduceus why even bother killing both splits? Just let it recombine. Heal two tanks at 5-6 stacks or one tank at 8 with both healers.
    8 stacks is actually pretty brutal now but the most either Cad ever has for us is 3 right when it dies, when we split them. Would have to be pretty slow dps to have 5-6 stacks each.

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    My group hasn't fed a slime since the first month of the game and our dps was never that good anyway, brute forcing it seems just as easy as feeding. I've one tanked cad a few times but it can be a bit scary at times especially if dps is mediocre and one of my healers is iffy anyway. Currently, just two tank it like normal and they get to 4-5 stacks or so when they both die. I am of the opinion kiting should never be viable but then again I came from WoW where you couldn't kite bosses (for the most part) like you do in this game, I think it's pretty cheesy.

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    Some of the fights in FFXI were designed with kiting in mind. I can't imagine straight tanking Kirin outside of the zerg, or Ullikumi. Shit, Faust too. Dudes used to hit like a fucking truck with TP spam

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