Twintania downed because FFXIV is so much easier than [insert name here]

[Kipling]

My group hasn't fed a slime since the first month of the game and our dps was never that good anyway, brute forcing it seems just as easy as feeding. I've one tanked cad a few times but it can be a bit scary at times especially if dps is mediocre and one of my healers is iffy anyway. Currently, just two tank it like normal and they get to 4-5 stacks or so when they both die. I am of the opinion kiting should never be viable but then again I came from WoW where you couldn't kite bosses (for the most part) like you do in this game, I think it's pretty cheesy.

That's like saying throwing fireballs in street fighter is cheesy because it feels cheap.

[Eanae]

I am of the opinion kiting should never be viable but then again I came from WoW where you couldn't kite bosses (for the most part) like you do in this game, I think it's pretty cheesy.

What.

[Obsidian]

8 stacks is actually pretty brutal now but the most either Cad ever has for us is 3 right when it dies, when we split them. Would have to be pretty slow dps to have 5-6 stacks each.

Without feeding it'll have 1-2 before the split (although I sincerely doubt anyone is able to put out enough DPS to skip the second stack without dropping a tank) and get 2-3 more thereafter.

[Judai]

super wat at the wow is harder cause we dont cheese kite shit attempt.

Some of the fights in FFXI were designed with kiting in mind. I can't imagine straight tanking Kirin outside of the zerg, or Ullikumi. Shit, Faust too. Dudes used to hit like a fucking truck with TP spam

Wat at this too tho. I have straight tanked Kirin, Faust and Ulli easily. Non-zerg. Granted, it was when we were "over geared" for shit but KB is the one and only thing I can think of that I never straight tanked and that's mostly cause I rarely fought it.

Without feeding it'll have 1-2 before the split (although I sincerely doubt anyone is able to put out enough DPS to skip the second stack without dropping a tank) and get 2-3 more thereafter.

I'm positive our group could push it to split before a second stack easily if we wanted.

[Detzu]

Some of the fights in FFXI were designed with kiting in mind. I can't imagine straight tanking Kirin outside of the zerg, or Ullikumi. Shit, Faust too. Dudes used to hit like a fucking truck with TP spam

I never saw anyone kiting those NMs at 75.

[Eanae]

Without feeding it'll have 1-2 before the split (although I sincerely doubt anyone is able to put out enough DPS to skip the second stack without dropping a tank) and get 2-3 more thereafter.

Ours split at 1 stack this week with 2 tanks and dps who died without feeding.

[MisterBob]

I never saw anyone kiting those NMs at 75.

Then you didn't get there very early. There was a long period of time in RoZ where kiting Kirin was virtually the only employed strategy. At one point the strategy primarily involved Chi Blasting the shit out of it with MND geared MNKs.

[Kipling]

Kiting Kirin was the only effective strategy used by NA players until about 2007 or 2008 when melee burning actually became plausible. Japanese players used to hold him still and just body toss tanks on my server until they watched NA's kite him and then they always did the same.

If you never saw Kirin kited then you probably didn't play until close to abyssea.

[Grey Jorildyn]

Chi Blast... Drgs and pld using opo and sleep pots for spirits... Man fuck those days.

[Niiro]

It wasn't melee burning that made straight tanking Kirin possible, it was just being smart and having better than AF1 gear.

2 PLDs, a couple melee (preferably SAMs to SC) and a BLM pt and you could fight him just like any of the other sky gods. Stonega was perfectly livable as long as enough people were getting hit by it.

[Kaisha]

Back onto Twin subject: Is there something with the hillside near the battle entrance that fucks up Twister?

My static figured out their snake problem so we're hitting twisters reliably now, but both I and the other healer got hit with a twister on different occasions during our run from the snake transition to our healing spot, dying immediately after the cast bar ends even though neither of us stopped moving, or traced another's path.

Have had zero issues otherwise dodging them. Mostly just working out the kinks of dealing with dreads with our caster-heavy setup.

[Lokus]

One of the healers in my group noted something similar with the hill during Twister phase. He basically ate it immediately when the cast bar ended so it's probably something funky with the geometry that messes with how Twister tracks the player. Aside from that quirk, we've dodged them all fine.

[Seravi Edalborez]

I sprint as soon as Aetheric goes off, wait for plummet, run straight across to the hill (left from the entrance, whatever direction that is) and just run a little circle near the left edge of the hill for twisters afterwards. Never had issues.

[Judai]

idk, our SCH and I sit on the hill and neither of us ever get hit by Twister.

edit: and Seravi, the sch, beats me to the post.

[Detzu]

Kiting Kirin was the only effective strategy used by NA players until about 2007 or 2008 when melee burning actually became plausible. Japanese players used to hold him still and just body toss tanks on my server until they watched NA's kite him and then they always did the same.

If you never saw Kirin kited then you probably didn't play until close to abyssea.

I started in 2008.

[shidobu]

Then you didn't get there very early. There was a long period of time in RoZ where kiting Kirin was virtually the only employed strategy. At one point the strategy primarily involved Chi Blasting the shit out of it with MND geared MNKs.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTTTTTT

[Deadgye]

Kirin and Ullikumi were kited forever. Never saw faust kited, you always had somebody tank him at the teleporter while he was spam healed.

[Kirbyprime]

Chi blasts were only used if you don't have enough BLMs! >____> having cycling parties because the MNK boost parties were useless 80% of the time was interesting.

[Indomitable Will]

I started in 2008.

Also if you never saw a kite, you weren't low manning these mobs at 75 or over caps, essentially any kill with less than 6 people had to be kited at some point until 99 cap, at which point 5-6 people could blow kirin up in like 2 minutes, ignoring adds and all (we did WAR, SAM, SAM, THF, WHM, WHM most of the time at 99 cap), but yeah other than Kirin low man, 2008 and beyond, you would never have seen them kited.....

anyway, on the twisters phase, it's either a lag issue or the geometry was odd right there, Lag=trace slightly larger circles (MIGHT help) or just hope for a run with no lag, bad geometryL 1. I would put in a bug report about it 2. move you location a little bit.

[Tyche]

I'm on the hill for twisters. I had issues when I just ran straight through. Now I do the prepatch spiral and never get hit. Maybe it's something about the geometry and how you go about avoiding them.