Summoner / Scholar sort-of in-depth

[Taruranto]

Inferno Bangles if you're det-focused rather than crit, otherwise can't really see a good reason to farm them. Titan earrings are laughable (spell speed) and while Vortex ring has slightly more det than Allagan ring, it trades that nice PIE for, again, spell speed. With how easy it is to get philo now I'd much rather have melded i70s or even Darklight in place of these until you can get the ideal i90s.

Can't see myself giving up on my Astral Bracelet, so... I guess I'll try to gear my lol-SMN, since I have a couple of coil drops and ultima neck, too bad I suck at playing it. x_x (and I hate the potatoes)

[Nirokun!]

Something neat I've sort of confirmed lately: Bane spreads the related DoTs at their "snapshotted" potency when they were cast. We know this. The interesting thing is that you can Bane onto an enemy with a huge "Vulnerability Down" buff (like say, Magitek Livia in CM, the Golem's main body in Qarn 2nd boss, Extreme Titan's gaol that's too close, Extreme Garuda sisters sometimes) and it will ignore the Vuln Down buff.

So a bunch of SMN/SCH could probably mop up those bosses (and any others who use this mechanic, rather than straight invulnerability or infinite Stoneskin, but I can't think of any others?) much quicker than another party comp. Also only noted the Extreme examples for lack of anything better to cite; obviously you probably don't want to suck on purpose there.

Edit: Kind of silly observation, but with pet macros and adjusted Obey you can now make a "pet gearset" for SCH and have it work, provided it's only for Eos and that you don't use Fey Covenant (the mdef buff). You can do this for Selene too but it's kind of pointless since she would revert when she uses either speed aura. Only question is if it's worthwhile (meh?), and what secondary you'd spec for fairy between det / crit / spell speed.

I'm abusing this like crazy in Garuda Extreme. Raging Strikes/Mega Int Potion (HQ lolz)/DoTs/Contagion > BANE > laugh maniacally because bane is rape. I do it during sisters after Chirada is down, do this to Suparna and slip an extra potent set of DoTs under Garuda's stoneskin. The first set of sisters (when there are still pillars) always gets contagion'd DoTs (usually just Suparna, but sometimes both if they wiggle close enough). SO SATISFYING!

[Taruranto]

Now if I could only get the fucking T1 mittens to drop... (and the Allagan Book, of course)

[Yugl]

Is there a way to make the following macro work with subtargeting?

/ac "Physick" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <t>

Normally I have the tank as my "confirmed" target and use Dpad up/down to subtarget for other heals. However, this macro results in the fairy always casting Embrace on the tank (because subtarget casts immediately return you to your primary target). I tried <lt> (last target) but that variable ignores subtargets and will resolve to my previous "confirmed" target.

On a related note, after some testing, I have some bad news:

The Embrace casting speed increase that was tied to Place vs. Heel in 2.0 is now tied to Free vs. Sic/Obey. If you are in anything but Free stance, you get the old laggy Heel Embrace spam, but if you leave her in Free mode, you get the chaincast Place Embrace spam.

The pet AI in this game feels like ice skating uphill. It shouldn't be that hard:

Free+Guard: fairy accepts commands but does what it wants, and casts Embrace with pauses for input
Free+Steady: fairy accepts commands and does only what it's told, except for Embraces with pauses for input
Sic+Guard: fairy does not accept commands, does what it wants and chaincasts everything
Obey+Guard: fairy accepts commands and does only what it's told, except for chaincast Embrace
Obey+Steady: fairy does nothing but execute commands

If that makes Obey+Guard "too good" then I'd rather have chaincast go back to Place vs. Heel; at least then you are rewarding pet micromanagement without totally relinquishing control of your pet. As of right now, it seems like Selene would have higher real-world HPS than Eos (just because it's practical to leave Selene in chaincuring Free mode while that's out of the question for Eos).

What method did you use to test this? When I checked, it seemed Freestance+WithOrWithout Place and Obey + WithOrWithout Place enabled chain cures.

Freestance + Place: Fight mobs while pixie is placed away (Not within AI range) and run to the pixie (Kill mobs before you do so they don't interrupt her spells)

Freestance + No place: Just summon before you defeat the mob > Kill mob > Check cures

Obey + Place: Same as Freestance + Place but use Obey before you place the pixie

Obey + No Place: Place beyond AI range and use heel when you defeat the mob

Edit: Checked within WP and I do notice the delay. I'm sure why I witnessed different results.

[chichicha]

Crit or Det, with a minor in PIE. I have yet to be convinced that spell speed is any good. The difference between a crit focus and a det focus BiS is only like 3 or 4 pieces so it's not a huge shift in priorities and both have PIE on every piece as well. So it's not like you're "relying" on crit for good Adlo (at least, you shouldn't be). It's just a nice bonus.

Thanks
I'll look into both BiS to see which is possible happened to me.

Not sure you guys realised this, it happened to me a lot in AK final boss.

I have Freestance + Place Eos near tank, whenever Melee DPS low HP, and if Eos has this "target not in line" happened. It will run around statue to get close to melee to Embrace them and run back to my place spot.

Well, it kinda nice to me less running around and focus on Tank

[Seravi Edalborez]

I have it in second post and a few pages (50/page) back. Need to make some adjustments to it as below:

Weapon: Allagan > Omnilex Zenith (speed37/det18) ~= Cognitome (speed26/PIE28)

Head: Myth/Allagan (PIE11/det15)
Body: Myth (PIE26/crit24) > Allagan (PIE26/det17)
Hands: Allagan (PIE16/crit15) > Myth (PIE16/speed15)
Waist: Myth (PIE8/crit16) > Allagan (PIE12/speed11)
Legs: Myth/Allagan (PIE26/crit24)
Feet: Myth (PIE16/speed15) > Allagan (PIE11/speed21)

Neck: Myth (PIE12/crit11) > Allagan (PIE8/det11)
Ear: Myth (PIE8/crit16) > Allagan (PIE12/det8) > Tremor (PIE8/speed16)
Wrist: Myth (PIE12/crit11) > Inferno (PIE8/det11) > Allagan (PIE8/speed16)
Ring1: Myth (PIE8/crit16)
Ring2: Allagan (PIE12/det8) ~= Vortex (det11/speed11)

I need to kind of edit the one I have in first post since for pretty much every case you can forget Direwolf stuff exists. Impractical and largely not that worthwhile. Everything leftmost I'd use for a crit-based BiS. To switch to det focus, swap the following pieces of Myth to Allagan (or whatever is in parenthesis): Body, Neck, Ear, Wrist (Inferno), Ring1 (Vortex maybe).

Also have to keep in mind after tomorrow night's hotfixes, Allagan head and legs go back to being identical to our Myth pieces.

[Ratatapa]

[Tyche]

Gonna get the body this week. Allagan head doesn't exist.

[SamanosukeShiva]

AF body in 2 weeks, and allagan boots stat revert tonight, I am excite.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Next week I can replace neck/ear/ring2 all with hero accessories. Then just waiting on Allagan hands (had to settle for CT hands for now) and book.

ITT: Post your gear day.

[Taruranto]

I'm actually unsure whatever I should rep my Astral with Hero, I could, but I quite like them. <-<

[Seravi Edalborez]

I'm actually unsure whatever I should rep my Astral with Hero, I could, but I quite like them. <-<

I feel the same honestly. I mean I can clear turn5 with my current gear so I keep thinking "what's the point".

[Reve]

I feel the same honestly. I mean I can clear turn5 with my current gear so I keep thinking "what's the point".

Average item level requirement lockout on Party Finder.

[Kipling]

I kind of want to gear blm now that I have elder staff... Instead of buying heros wrists for the time being, you guys think inferno bangles or allagan? Thinking inferno.

[Ratatapa]

BLM question in the SMN/SCH thread?

BLASFEMY

[Kipling]

Nope, inferno bangles are healer. Just explaining my laziness in regards to getting hero for Scholar.

[Yugl]

Inferno if you choose to skip hero's bracelets.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Inferno if you choose to skip hero's bracelets.

Yep, seconded. Det is way better than Spell Speed if you're skipping hero's.

[Kipling]

Figured as much, thanks.

[Rocl]

oh, i'm late but



pretty sure i'm done with SCH until 2.2 except maybe like CT feet / PVP feet b ut meh

NOW FEATURING ONE DIRECTION HAIR