Nevada middle school shooting: 2 dead, 2 hospitalized, shooter 'neutralized'

[BaneTheBrawler]

ill bet the kids took off the orange cap. shit is there for a reason, and my parents explained to me why it was there when i was a kid, so that i wouldnt do that.


i'd say this is a parenting fail more than officer fail.

[Ddz]

ill bet the kids took off the orange cap. shit is there for a reason, and my parents explained to me why it was there when i was a kid, so that i wouldnt do that.


i'd say this is a parenting fail more than officer fail.

You don't have kids, do you? You can be the best parent in the world, and your kids are going to be absolute little shits sometimes.

[Tajin]

I wouldnt buy my kid real looking guns to begin with.

[Ksandra]

Should be noted since it kinda sounds like people glossed over this, but the kid's parents didn't give him that.

GL knowing anything and everything your kid is playing with when at a friend's house.

[BaneTheBrawler]

You don't have kids, do you? You can be the best parent in the world, and your kids are going to be absolute little shits sometimes.

being a little shit != being stupid as hell, and stupid kids are caused by stupid parents.

[Dimmauk]

Just need more stupid cops to kill stupid kids?

[BaneTheBrawler]

yes. that way the stupid problem solves itself.

[Tajin]

Should be noted since it kinda sounds like people glossed over this, but the kid's parents didn't give him that.

GL knowing anything and everything your kid is playing with when at a friend's house.

The point stands, it could have been the friend that was shot, friend just had to go visit the victim.

[Kyreth]

" Drop your weapon" -> shoot the suspect anyway.
Solid police work.

He didn't drop the weapon and pointed it towards the officers, apparently.

Kid gets a Darwin Award at that point.

[Ksandra]

The point stands, it could have been the friend that was shot,

But then it would still be the friend's parents fault not the victim's...

[BaneTheBrawler]

I said kids, plural. For a reason. Whichever one took off the cap is an idiot, and if it wasn't the kid who got shot, he was still an idiot for playing with it anyway and fucking pointing it at an officer. Assuming that's actually what happened.


Of course, it's a tragedy, but one of those that would have been really easily avoided by not being stupid parents.

[Tajin]

But then it would still be the friend's parents fault not the victim's...

X-parents fault, stop being a fat stupid bitch ksandra.

Point is: real looking guns may get you shot in present day murica.

[Bardicrune]

Point is: real looking guns may get you shot in present day murica.

In the United States since 1992, toy guns are required to have an orange plug or be entirely brightly colored to signify them as toys.

Not just a phenomena of present day. For over two decades now, those orange caps have been used to help prevent this type of circumstance from occurring. Ever since plastic manufacturing techniques have gotten good enough to fool the eyes of a viewer from a "fair" distance away.

[Ksandra]

X-parents fault, stop being a fat stupid bitch ksandra.

Point is: real looking guns may get you shot in present day murica.

What on earth are you going on about? People kept saying parents fault, I just wanted to clarify the kid wasn't given the gun by his parents.

[ronin sparthos]

I said kids, plural. For a reason. Whichever one took off the cap is an idiot, and if it wasn't the kid who got shot, he was still an idiot for playing with it anyway and fucking pointing it at an officer. Assuming that's actually what happened.
Of course, it's a tragedy, but one of those that would have been really easily avoided by not being stupid parents.

Oh stop.

Kids are fucking kids for a reason, they aren't sufficiently developed physically or through experience to understand that certain actions (like removing the markings from a toy gun) have very real consequences. Doubly so when you're in the phase of rebelling against mom 'n dads stupid rules. This isn't a 17-19 year old who should have basic common sense down already, it was a thirteen year old who wanted to play with a gun because doggonit this is America where we're fanatically attached to our firearms.

Well, he got turned to swiss cheese, God bless America.

[Skjie]

Seriously, anyone thinking this is anything except the cops and the cultures fault are nutty as hell. Your country is fucked up.

[6souls]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...6_70675315.jpg

In the latest incident, two sheriff's deputies saw the teenager "with what appeared to be some type of rifle", a news release from the Sonoma County Sheriff's office said.

The deputies called for backup and repeatedly ordered the boy to drop the gun before firing several rounds from their handguns, police said.

The boy, who was pronounced dead at the scene, was later identified by his family as Andy Lopez.

"He was holding the weapon in his left hand. He began to turn toward his right in the direction of the deputy, and in so doing he moved the gun toward the deputy, and the deputy's mindset was that he was fearful he would be shot," Lt Paul Henry of Santa Rosa police said.

But the boy's father, Rodrigo Lopez said the shooting made no sense. "My son lost his life. He's not alive any more just because of the mistake of somebody."

The replica gun had belonged to a friend, he said.

The sheriff's office said a plastic handgun had also been found in the boy's waistband.

Witness Brian Zastrow told the Santa Rosa Press Democrat he heard seven shots.

"First, I heard a single siren and within seconds I heard seven shots go off, sounded like a nail gun," he said.

One man who saw the events unfold said the shooting was over in an instant.

"He pulled over to the kid walking and he just opened the door and shot him, three shots," Ismael Mondragon told KGO-TV.

Police Lt Dennis O'Leary said the deputies had been placed on administrative leave pending the inquiry.

Sheriff Steve Freitas described the shooting as a "tragedy" and promised the investigation would be thorough and transparent.

"As a father of two boys about this age, I can't begin to imagine the grief this family is going through," he said.

A spokeswoman for the boy's school described him as "a very loved student, a very popular, very handsome young man, very smart and capable".

Linsey Gannon, assistant principal at Lawrence Cook Middle School, said he played trumpet in the school band.

"Our community has been rocked by his loss," she said.

Candles, teddy bears and flowers have since been left at the scene of the shooting.

"He was a good kid, he was 13 years old. He didn't look like a man, Andy, he was a boy," one friend told local media.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24648974
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article...cles/131029886

Few more details, witness account.

[Moss]

jesus...

they done fucked up

[Abandon]

if i were a cop and some kid pointed what looks like a rifle at me, i'd turn him into swiss cheese too. kind of stupid ass arguments are going on here, let's be fucknig real. you goddamn foreigners should shut the fuck up

[BaneTheBrawler]

I was ~5 when I asked my parents why toy guns came with orange caps. Wasn't hard to take "So people know it's fake." and reason out why that was important.