Dev Tracker: Discussion

[Sechs]

Just noticed the level of the 2 BP Ward.
Will they be useable from /SMN ?

[Ophannus]

That astral flow kinda rules out Phoenix for a long time

[Sechs]

That astral flow kinda rules out Phoenix forever

FTFY.

[Damane]

Wow, Cait Sith looks terrible. I hope it at least has TH or something. I mean, raise and reraise II BPs? Hooray. Now we won't lose as much XP when we die with only a summoner healer in party. This is so much worse than I could have imagined.


... on the upside, Level ? Holy is SMN's second non-AF form of AoE damage (other than Thunderspark). That is really the single thing that this avatar brings to the table.

who knows, maybe the job combo/Stats/etc of Caitsith make it purely a good auto attack Avatar. (Who the fuck am I kidding right lol) But it could be still possible.

[Foldypaws]

I'm just happy with being able to have RR while /rdm or /blm.

[Chocobunnies]

Cait Sith's moves "does" make it sound more like Phoenix.. not to mention that after all this time it sounds rather.. meh'tastic..

[pancakesandsex]

I dunno, it IS a cat, so I think raise and reraise fits the theme.

[Ophannus]

Maybe Atomos will inflict AoE attack-100%, defence-100% and evasion -100. Basically floors everythingn for 45sec

[Damane]

I dunno, it IS a cat, so I think raise and reraise fits the theme.

but you can only use it 9 times! then you have to get another cait!

[Trigun]

Straw Hat Where?

[NynJa]

Whos capped on Skirmish 3?

[Draylo]

FTFY.

Yeah I was thinking about that :/. I mean.. they could give Phoenix Rebirth Flame which would do aoe fire dmg and arise lol, but that would make it better than cait sith.

[scaevola]

Wow, Cait Sith looks terrible. I hope it at least has TH or something. I mean, raise and reraise II BPs? Hooray. Now we won't lose as much XP when we die with only a summoner healer in party. This is so much worse than I could have imagined.


... on the upside, Level ? Holy is SMN's second non-AF form of AoE damage (other than Thunderspark). That is really the single thing that this avatar brings to the table.

Yeah, but what was anybody really expecting? SMN's probably in the best place it's ever been right now even if pet job status is always going to keep it at the kid's table; what would we have wanted Cait Sith to add?

[geno3302]

What would we have wanted Cait Sith to add?

I would have liked an avatar that can at least be considered a DD but suck at it. As opposed to what we currently have: avatars that deal damage but cannot be considered a DD.

I think byrth nailed it, this looks like another diabolos. Though I guess it's too early to judge (lolyeahright he'll suck big fat galka tails.)

[Meian]

So... was there a mention of Cait Sith having an Avatar's Favor effect?

[geno3302]

You know rereading the post Mewing Lullaby should be a BP:Ward and unless Eerie Eye does DMG on top of the silence and amnesia it should be a BP: Ward too...
Why didn't they at least give him Holy and Holy II at 15 and 60....?

[scaevola]

I would have liked an avatar that can at least be considered a DD but suck at it. As opposed to what we currently have: avatars that deal damage but cannot be considered a DD.

But that's just it: why pin hopes on Cait specifically rather than make all avatars interchangeably viable as DDs? If Cait could get outside buffs and no other avatar could, that would be WAY more rage-inducing than this.

[Shenrien]

My dislike for the Caits AF is this, if you're in a wipe situation, assuming that this BP will only work in a party and not affect anyone outside of it... By the time the thought crosses your mind that hey everyone is wiping and I could do my cool BP you have to summon out Cait because you were obv using something more useful for damage or damage mitigation, pop your astral flow and hope whatever has already killed off your DDs hasn't already made a b-line straight to you while the animation takes forever to go off, unless Cait breaks the games rules and is instant upon use which most likly will not be the case because every avatar up until this point has had some sort of charge up time to use their AF abilities.

The BPs it got look horrible and it's amazing that it took them so long to come out with this abomination. Wasn't their excuse in the past the reason why they couldn't just come out with it sooner or later was they had to come up with all the abilitys and what not for the avatar and scale them slightly? To me it looks like they pulled Cait Sith straight out of the one BC where you just let Lilisette rape it and you stand back and cure, and only came up with the AoE Arise, everything else had been taken from that one boss fight. Absolutely disappointing, here is hoping they never take the time to release Atomos.

[Priran]

Well they don't just have to add the fight and the avatar, they have to come up with the lore for why he's summonable all of a sudden, and design rewards for people who have no interest in SMN which are somehow Cait Sith-themed and preferably good. Also, by SE logic Arise is supposed to be rare and they just gave it to an entirely new job for essentially free, so it's likely they think that astral flow is really strong and balanced around it. He also has the only method of inflicting Amnesia by a player (aside from the barely-worth-mentioning Divine Emblem Holy II on Undead), which could actually be pretty good.

[dasva]

I don't see much complaining. I guess we SMN have just been beaten down to the point where we just take whatever is given to us. Hey RDM, wanna go drinking with me?

At least you got an awesome sp2. I'm still waiting for them to stop telling us that a lvl 15 ja with a 10 minute recast is so good that it should also be a lvl 96 ja with a 1 hr recast <.<