Dev Tracker: Discussion

[dasva]

Also monstrosity and pankration which use monsters are clearly resistable namely by things with earth resistance. Bout the only thing that could beat my super fast enterror chigoe back in the day lol

[Kyte]

I tried resisting Absolute Terror from stupid Nauls with 418 earth resist and Pflug up and had zero luck.

[Foldypaws]

Try it with dark resist. Absolute Terror has a Dark icon for BLU.

(And it's not like Terror would be the first status with multiple element versions, Sleep, and Dispel do that)

[Kyte]

I'm aware. Also notable is that RUN did seem to be able to resist BLU's AT with earth resist.

[JSHidaka]

Nerfing is something hard to handle for developers.
If you make a big nerf to Alexandrites, say 30k to 5k, then people who are about to complete or already completed their mythic might (rightfully) go crazy "Omg I worked so hard for mine, omg omg now every douche is gonna have one it won't be special anymore, FU SE /quitgame" etc.
If you don't "omg it's too hard to get one I hate you SE I have to work and to care for my wife and children I can't make a Mythic unless I fishbot everyday with 5 accounts, I hate you! /quitgame".

I'm sure something CAN be done and I agree something SHOULD be done, but it's very easy to make a single step in the wrong direction and create a huge mess, for one reason or another.

The only thing I would like to see nerfed are the 50 assaults part... It's practically the only thing holding me from starting a mythic...
Don't really care about the 30000 Alex... Can farm that, same with tokes... We'll the einherjar part... A nerf that remove the 6 player entry condition...

[Foldypaws]

The only thing I would like to see nerfed are the 50 assaults part... It's practically the only thing holding me from starting a mythic...
Don't really care about the 30000 Alex... Can farm that, same with tokes... We'll the einherjar part... A nerf that remove the 6 player entry condition...

Can't you do Einherjar solo (or duo, or trio...) as long as you win within 10 minutes?

[Byrthnoth]

Yeah, Odin is a trivially easy solo on SMN.

[dasva]

Try it with dark resist. Absolute Terror has a Dark icon for BLU.

(And it's not like Terror would be the first status with multiple element versions, Sleep, and Dispel do that)

It might have a dark icon but it's still earth for resist

[Sechs]

How many people here DONT have a second polid?

/raises hand

I can imagine the majority of people who post on BG do have a second account. Not sure about the majority of FFXI players though.

[Foldypaws]

It might have a dark icon but it's still earth for resist

You mean the BLU version? Or the mob version? Because I'm not disputing the BLU version (I know earth elementals resist it), but as for the mob version, a lack of resistance when stacking earth resist could indicate A) that it's not (feasibly) resistible, or B) that it goes off of some element other than Earth.

I don't know that anyone has tested the other 7 elements to show that it's not B).

[NynJa]

/raises hand

I can imagine the majority of people who post on BG do have a second account. Not sure about the majority of FFXI players though.

Ok, break it down further.
Of the people who are making a mythic, or plan to make a mythic, how many of them have access to a second POLid? Because the majority of FFXI players arent going near mythics.

[dasva]

You mean the BLU version? Or the mob version? Because I'm not disputing the BLU version (I know earth elementals resist it), but as for the mob version, a lack of resistance when stacking earth resist could indicate A) that it's not (feasibly) resistible, or B) that it goes off of some element other than Earth.

I don't know that anyone has tested the other 7 elements to show that it's not B).

Blu version is definitely earth for resist. For other forms of terror pankration ones and the few monstrosity versions I've tested are earth as well. Mob would be hard to test since you'd need to get a resist and that might be a problem as you've

Have you tried something weaker or with a weaker terror? Also how much meva did you have? Also did you compare durations? It could be some silly multiple resist state thing like stun (in fact iirc the 2 debuffs actually conflict with each other) so full resist might be fairly low even with a decent resist rate

[Sechs]

Ok, break it down further.
Of the people who are making a mythic, or plan to make a mythic, how many of them have access to a second POLid? Because the majority of FFXI players arent going near mythics.

I can imagine the large majority do lol
You don't get a mythic unless you're that hardcore
Well I suppose you could these days, slowly, with the solo thing, if you got a lot of time and a looooot of patience.

[Fwahm]

I just tried to resist Absolute Terror, and failed.

I had +417 Magic Evasion, 2 Magic Evasion: Minor atmas, +324 Earth resistance, Pflug, Saboteur Addle with enhancements from Estoqueur's Gantherots +2, Estoqueur's Sayon +2, and Uk'uxkaj Boots.

It's effectively unresistable from pure magic evasion, I think.

[JSHidaka]

Can't you do Einherjar solo (or duo, or trio...) as long as you win within 10 minutes?

Hmmm? Did I miss some old updates notes? Lol

[fantasticdan]

It's been that way forever afaik.

[dasva]

YEah it lets you enter just if you don't have enough it will kick you early. Also at one point pets dieing for some reason counted as losing a person iirc and so you could still invoke the timer with the right amount of people

[JSHidaka]

I haven't really done it after I got back... So don't recall that... But either way they can "nerf" it and let players literally solo it w/ full time...

[Byrthnoth]

They updated the HP/MP post to include estimations.
Tarus are going to go up by about 300 HP.
Galkas are going to go up by about 250 MP.

So there will still be something like a 200 HP gap between Galkas and Tarus?

[Martel]

I just tried to resist Absolute Terror, and failed.

I had +417 Magic Evasion, 2 Magic Evasion: Minor atmas, +324 Earth resistance, Pflug, Saboteur Addle with enhancements from Estoqueur's Gantherots +2, Estoqueur's Sayon +2, and Uk'uxkaj Boots.

It's effectively unresistable from pure magic evasion, I think.

There are definitely notable differences between different terror inflicting moves.

I made similar attempts on resisting absolute terror, and at best I got some very short duration. It's been so long I forget the details though.

But I was resisting terror from Seismic Impact frequently a while ago.(note, this was an abyssea ironclad, not a skirmish 3 one. <,< )