Dev Tracker: Discussion

[pancakesandsex]

Neo Legion, with the new abjuration gear they were talking about a half year ago
I actually could see that really happen, but instead of going with the expansion notorious monster themes, i can see them go with the delve them.
Hall1: aquans, bismark orobo sea-monk, megaboss shark
hall2: vermins, hall3: lizards, hall 4: birds
final hall: all delve bosses and kumhau and yumcax as final bosses!

why can I see them add this ¬.¬?

I would rather see this implemented as delve T3. All 6 naaks plus a special 7th naak, able to bead 4, beads drop from standard t1-2 delve.

[Damane]

Neo legion would have the potential to induce massive rage... For me at least. While I want 119 Huginn Gambieras like you would not believe, If they make me craft anything like that again I will lose my shit.

Needs to be upgraded from the lvl 99 uncursed piece. Which is likely the opposite of what everyone else would prefer. Although, even in that case, I'm left with the horrifying thought of perhaps needing to craft some of the other Pieces of Huginn.... ugh

i would like them to add new abjurations AND to be able to up the olde legion abjurations to ilvl 119 wiht stat vomits with synergy or so, but thats dreaming.

[dasva]

I would rather see this implemented as delve T3. All 6 naaks plus a special 7th naak, able to bead 4, beads drop from standard t1-2 delve.

That would be kinda cool. Especially if of course they kept the normal drops and possibly added new ones plus kept the plasm multiplier. Make for some crazy runs

[Priran]

Except of course acc racc and macc all effect their respective hit rates in fairly comparable ways (in fact depending on range the same) and gear options are at somewhat comparable. Meanwhile magic defense bonus and defense have insanely different ways they effect defensively and have always had different amounts not to mention common multiplicative bonuses. But thanks for taking it to the illogical extreme let's compare mab and attack next for even more fun

Except resist rate is really the only knob SE has to tweak to separate a good SCH, RDM, or BRD from a bad one, with respect to mob interactions. DDs can fail to do good damage for a range of reasons, but debuffs either get resisted or they don't, being the primary determinant of duration with little to no impact on potency from other sources (i.e. the Cherukikis cannot be made to sleep more soundly, Tojil cannot be stunned any harder, and nobody cares about your dINT as long as Xag'Nar is blinded). And when 30 m.acc or less separates a Lehbrailg +2 from a 119 tupsimati, 6 m.acc from food (which mages don't usually eat so you're not giving up anything to get it) is pretty good.

[dasva]

Except resist rate is really the only knob SE has to tweak with to separate a good SCH, RDM, or BRD from a bad one, with respect to mob interactions. DDs can fail to do good damage for a range of reasons, but debuffs either get resisted or they don't, with little to no impact on potency from other sources (nobody cares about your dINT as long as Xag'Nar is blinded). And when 30 m.acc or less is the only thing separating a Lehbrailg +2 from a 119 tupsimati, 6 m.acc from food (which mages don't usually eat so you're not giving up anything to get it) is pretty good.

So? hit rate still matters. Not really sure how att, da, etc makes +35+% hit rate compares to +6-12% hit rate. Of course that argument kinda ignores nukes and potency... of course debuffs have kinda been regulated into being used for gimmicks in certain fights than for their actual abilities but that's more to poor design. Not really sure what you are getting at with your weapons or not eating food points... melee skirmish 2 weapons can have even less of a difference from mythics would that mean 6 acc is pretty good? Would melees not eating food make a 6 acc food good? But let's compare to other foods... there are 7 int foods which will give 3.5-7 macc for int based stuff 10 mnd foods which would be 5-10 both adding potency not to mention melees will get stats + att and/or acc. My point is there is a general sentiment of making mage specific traits and stats lower. Of making it ridiculously hard to land spells while melees can just get some madigrals. Actually thinking rdm sp2 is good lol. Not even having mab food until recently while having att food. Theirs a reason why no one cares if mages eat food but really care if melees or even tanks do. Namely mage foods have barely any effect compared to other foods

[Damane]

Except resist rate is really the only knob SE has to tweak to separate a good SCH, RDM, or BRD from a bad one, with respect to mob interactions. DDs can fail to do good damage for a range of reasons, but debuffs either get resisted or they don't, being the primary determinant of duration with little to no impact on potency from other sources (i.e. the Cherukikis cannot be made to sleep more soundly, Tojil cannot be stunned any harder, and nobody cares about your dINT as long as Xag'Nar is blinded). And when 30 m.acc or less separates a Lehbrailg +2 from a 119 tupsimati, 6 m.acc from food (which mages don't usually eat so you're not giving up anything to get it) is pretty good.

sorry but the amount of macc we gained from delve 2.0 hardly made an impact on landing anything worthwile on hardmission battles D+. yes it made it alot easier to land stuff on scnm battles D+, but i would welcome a macc food that would allow me to not go full macc set retarded on nukes vs delve 2.0 bosses or AAs D+. or an mab/mdmg food that bumps my dmg significantly up etc. would like to level the playing field a bit vs melees, because atm for mages it fells like a melee going against harder stuff not haveing sushi at their disposal.

enfeebs have been degraded to gimmick tools on almost anything
nukes do laughable shit dmg on delv2 bosses and hardmode d+ because you need to swap all your mab gear for macc to have a somewhat 90 % full hit rate and thats not even accounting for the mdt traits the things have. i give up basicly 50% of my nuke power up to maintain a still non caped nuke hit rate (with klimaform and storm spell). intead nukeing for 1k + its like 500ish dmg on t1s

thats half of the mage tools severly nerfed or useless

[Damane]

and if someone suggests to give out mage buffs from geo or cor in 6-8 man pt ima slap them >.> because thats never gonna happen, it also almost never happened in allys ecxept for geo macc up and meva down on delve 1 but that was for stuns

[Ligray]

Matsui posted May update notes, so update day is next Wednesday.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/41764

[Malithar]

New areas, place NPCs, set shops... Wonder if we're going to see the rest of Rala Waterways. I remember back at launch someone explored the locked portions of the zones and saw what they described as a mini city of sorts.

Hope that little bit of hype he gave the missions doesn't fizzle out into some bullshit, Imma hold him to his word. Although, it does appear we're only getting one mission fight this batch, as they're only adding a "mission battle." I don't really care about fights anymore, I mean they can be cool, but they've proven thus far that they don't want people to get hung up on mission fights, although this is leading up to the climax, as they've said, so maybe we'll see a difficulty increase.

New rewards from the Library, wonder what it could be, as there's no mention of new WKR drops yet, and there's nothing really that comes to mind that'd be cool to get from it. Maybe Skirmish v3 KIs lol.

CPs from RoE, hope it's repeatable and a decent amount...

[Ligray]

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...2419/12419.jpg
7th Naakaul?

[Tarage]

"Easing of price fluctuations for trigger items"

Haha nice.

[Malithar]

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...2419/12419.jpg
7th Naakaul?

Not to say that's not the 7th Naakual, but that's the wyrm introduced in the current final CS.

[Prothescar]

another new zone is bizarre. they haven't even done anything with rakaznar yet. also, hoping "dedicated" weaponskill doesn't mean that they won't be unlockable without an ergon weapon.

[Damane]

another new zone is bizarre. they haven't even done anything with rakaznar yet. also, hoping "dedicated" weaponskill doesn't mean that they won't be unlockable without an ergon weapon.

new zone could also mean a new BC zone just for the mission battle

[Karbuncle]

I was thinking that too, like a Provenance type area.

[dasva]

What gets me is the set shops part of it though... or is that just generic way of saying any kind of npc or target you can get stuff from?

[Maurauc]

Could be that Inner Ra'Kaznar actually contains the remnants of the old civilization. That could be pretty neat, and would be a fairly unique and difficult city to get to, while finishing Ra'Kaznar.
Edit: Actually, scratch that. Unless they add two new zones, there's a new survival skill coming, so it's going to be at least a dungeon/outdoors zone.

[Damane]

Could be that Inner Ra'Kaznar actually contains the remnants of the old civilization. That could be pretty neat, and would be a fairly unique and difficult city to get to, while finishing Ra'Kaznar.
Edit: Actually, scratch that. Unless they add two new zones, there's a new survival skill coming, so it's going to be at least a dungeon/outdoors zone.

actually that doesnt say anything, they said they will add new survival skills that help you traverse the older zones even better, just recently

[Malithar]

They did, but the only hazards that are left are the floating structures in Ra'kaznar, and the gelids in Kamihr. Pretty lack luster skills. They've had a habit of going back and adding one's for past areas too, like the hot springs quest for the steam vents in Morimar.

[Priran]

another new zone is bizarre. they haven't even done anything with rakaznar yet. also, hoping "dedicated" weaponskill doesn't mean that they won't be unlockable without an ergon weapon.

It was actually really obvious they were going to add a new zone once they announced another rank for coalitions, since so many coalitions' max rank assignments involve Kamihr or Outer Ra'Ka so they'd have nowhere to go with another rank. Some still don't even have a max rank assignment because there hasn't been a new zone in so long.

I was thinking that too, like a Provenance type area.

That'd fall under "event specific areas", which they are adding, but it's a separate category in addition to the regular zone they're adding.

I'd guess they're adding an outdoors zone with the 7th Naakual (which I don't think is the white dragon), because it says they're adding new rewards from Celennia Library.