Dev Tracker: Discussion

[Fwahm]

It's extremely unlikely that Geomancy +10 is just a static increase, given just how uneven it would buff Geo spells. It's much, much more likely that it means Geomancy spell potency +10%, like many of the reforged AF and Relic that have numbers without percentage signs.

[Damane]

It's extremely unlikely that Geomancy +10 is just a static increase, given just how uneven it would buff Geo spells. It's much, much more likely that it means Geomancy spell potency +10%, like many of the reforged AF and Relic that have numbers without percentage signs.

dunno gjallarhorn did the same for bard and made ballads godlike with +5 and marches. considering that geos can only have 2 spells up and a bard with relic/empy 4, i think the +10% on % based spells would even things out between bard and geo. geo would obliterate brd in the minuet department. I think its a straight +10 to everything, compareing it with cor rolls it wouldnt even surpass those, when compared to their lucky number/XI number.

[Fwahm]

Gjallarhorn was before SE started using plain numbers as percentages in gear equipment. Look at all the examples of stats on recent recent equipment that give +x as percentages; Enhancing magic duration, Warcry effect duration, Counter rate, Counter damage, Rampart Duration, Drain and Aspir potency, Indilocure spell potency, etc.

I think you're being extremely overly optimistic.

[dasva]

Gjallarhorn also has/had sidegrades that give almost as much... meanwhile idris If worked like that will double the potency of many things or more while no weapon adds anything. Also geo was created/balanced around not having that boost while brd was from the beginning designed around +song instruments.

If somehow they did make straight +10 to everything it would probably really be 1.0 lol

[NynJa]

My money is +10% potency. +1% potency would be much lulz.

[dannyl]

Been waiting for an update on the Inside the Belly ! Good stuff

[Damane]

My money is +10% potency. +1% potency would be much lulz.

+10% portency is pritty lulz for most spells. would only add 1mp more to refresh if at all and 1.25 % attack to fury or other varoius things. i think it is just +10 on top of everything. it would bring refresh on par with gjallsr horn and other buffs on par with cor (fury would have almost the same pot as chaos roll with drk). it hardly is any OP ecxept for def down being 23%

[Gwynplaine]

Stupid question from out of nowhere that occurred to me today: did they ever put in that quest that was going to be based on the most popular voted FF character? If so what was it?

[NynJa]

Stupid question from out of nowhere that occurred to me today: did they ever put in that quest that was going to be based on the most popular voted FF character? If so what was it?

Trusts?

[Byrthnoth]

SE has been good about putting % when they mean % lately. I bet it is similar to song+.

[NynJa]

+10% portency is pritty lulz for most spells. would only add 1mp more to refresh if at all and 1.25 % attack to fury or other varoius things. i think it is just +10 on top of everything. it would bring refresh on par with gjallsr horn and other buffs on par with cor (fury would have almost the same pot as chaos roll with drk). it hardly is any OP ecxept for def down being 23%

The difference between Galla and Langelik is 1.5% haste, that is potentially dispellable.
The difference between Galla and Apollo's is +30%, except since its not percentage base, presuming you have 900 attack, the difference is 975 attack and 979 attack (or very very little)


wont matter till someone gets one and tests it out.

[dasva]

Yeah a simple +10 is just too huge of a gap between non ergon and ergon. It'd be like if ghorn was the only instrument in the game...

[Julian]

They still have regular handbells to release, or equipment with geo boosts.

Wouldn't surprise me to see stuff with, say, +5, in the near future.

The gap is only so huge right now because the other gear is nonexistant. Like someone else dais, it's like comparing a brd with no instrument to a gjallarhorn. Of course the gap is ridiculous.

[Sechs]

They still have regular handbells to release, or equipment with geo boosts.

Wouldn't surprise me to see stuff with, say, +5, in the near future.

The gap is only so huge right now because the other gear is nonexistant. Like someone else dais, it's like comparing a brd with no instrument to a gjallarhorn. Of course the gap is ridiculous.

The difference would kinda be that a BRD uses either a gjallarhorn OR an instrument.
A Geo would be able to use the normal handbells that all the other GEO can use AND Indra.
Not the same

Now if you meant additional Clubs with +Geo that's a different story and I could agree with you.
Don't see it happening in the near future tho, considering they just released a Job Specific Club for GEO.

[Malithar]

Now if you meant additional Clubs with +Geo that's a different story and I could agree with you.
Don't see it happening in the near future tho, considering they just released a Job Specific Club for GEO.

The geomancer ergon weapon “Idris” has this type of effect, but in the June version update we will be adding other equipment that boosts the effects of geomancy.

Further convinced it's +10 tiers with the translations provided by Kincard and Camate. Much more excited about that Ergon now.

Suppose this equipment will be coming from a WKR, as that's the only new content they've mentioned with new items being added. Though all they mentioned before was a Cor ring, perhaps the Cor ring will be similar and provide a potency augment, rather than the distance augment that was assumed.

[Ophannus]

I'm surprised they didn't make more handbells. Like a handbell with Languor+5 or a bell with Regen+6 etc similar to bard instruments.

[Prothescar]

lul @ +10 being "too strong". If anything, it's exactly what GEO needs to be relevant and exactly what a mythic-equivalent support weapon should do (looking at you Death Penalty). No one should really be surprised if it does in fact turn out to be exactly the same as song potency. Compare the effects of even the RUN ergon weapon to any normal weapon available... what can replicate it? Nothing? Oh. That's what I thought.

But yeah, don't discount it just 'cause there's "no alternatives from normal gear". They say in the exact same post that they're planning to add new gear that enhances Geomancy, and it's be silly to suggest that couldn't possible include an instrument-like system using main hand weapons or handbells.

[Draylo]

Thought SE said they wanted to avoid adding multiple gear like BRD has. I guess since we got the wardrobe they are changing their mind.

[Dotsudoku]

I think they're just looking to avoid specificity. Generalized boosts to geomancy, a la song+ enhancements, should be fair game.

[Seha]

perhaps the Cor ring will be similar and provide a potency augment, rather than the distance augment that was assumed.

Who assumed it? With Luzaf you get already 16 yalms, doesn't make much sense to add another that increases range further.